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[britincali]

I have to say the 5.4 OHC mod motor in my truck has been bitchin, yes the original motor blew on the dyno but that was due to getting greedy with boost plus a retarded tuner and dyno operator.

Aside from launching a plug due to shitty design (fixed in 04+ motors) its never let me down and I dont baby it.

[dannygraves]

No there was some sort of gasket that fails all the time and is not easily changed?

the oil filter housing gasket. He never replaced it and just let it leak, I replaced it the day I bought it from him and haven't had a problem since. They changed the design the next year. That was actually the reason he sold it to me so cheap. You had to jack up the motor, drain the coolant and disconnect the motor mounts to get to it, that was the problem.

[dannygraves]

I have to say the 5.4 OHC mod motor in my truck has been bitchin, yes the original motor blew on the dyno but that was due to getting greedy with boost plus a retarded tuner and dyno operator.

Aside from launching a plug due to shitty design (fixed in 04+ motors) its never let me down and I dont baby it.

yeah, the 4 threads for plugs sucked, but from what I understand they only ever failed from owners over tightening.

[Roostius_Maximus]

3 different kinda of plugs too, each one has a special tool to remove the broken one so you can soak 4 hours into that before lifting the cab and taking the head off

i know of some kids down the road with a 4.whatever ford 1/2 ton with 650,000 kms on it. it was buring oil so he yanked it. we couldnt do a thing to fix what was there, the heads had a egg shaped slot where the cam goes, so bad that the bushing kit thats made to fix the problem was almost .100"shy of closing the hole, amazing it ran. I'm running a crapper of a chevy k2500 with a 6.0l that started burnng a pile of oil at 385? maybee it was 420000, either way it had a 175rwhp of nitrous on a fjo progressive controller. I know i put more than 300lbs thru it. I had a 45lb tank under the back seat cuz i was getting tired of changing the 10lb bottle twice a week. i also elimiated any chance of the clutches staying in the original trans by running the nitrous. Each day id get up and tell myself i'm not going to use it. then on the way to work, in the 3 miles of hwy i'd take i'd find some reason to crack the tap and let her rip

[dannygraves]

3 different kinda of plugs too, each one has a special tool to remove the broken one so you can soak 4 hours into that before lifting the cab and taking the head off

i know of some kids down the road with a 4.whatever ford 1/2 ton with 650,000 kms on it. it was buring oil so he yanked it. we couldnt do a thing to fix what was there, the heads had a egg shaped slot where the cam goes, so bad that the bushing kit thats made to fix the problem was almost .100"shy of closing the hole, amazing it ran. I'm running a crapper of a chevy k2500 with a 6.0l that started burnng a pile of oil at 385? maybee it was 420000, either way it had a 175rwhp of nitrous on a fjo progressive controller. I know i put more than 300lbs thru it. I had a 45lb tank under the back seat cuz i was getting tired of changing the 10lb bottle twice a week. i also elimiated any chance of the clutches staying in the original trans by running the nitrous. Each day id get up and tell myself i'm not going to use it. then on the way to work, in the 3 miles of hwy i'd take i'd find some reason to crack the tap and let her rip

your thinking of the '03 build date '04s. My f-150 was one and it was at 91k, so I was going to have to change those plugs soon, I also had a warped exhaust manifold (my own fault for sawzalling off my muffler and driving it around like that with the weight unsupported). I also had cam phazer noise which was also a later '03 build date problem. none of these problems left me stranded or even had any effect on how the truck ran, but the thought of having to pull the heads for the plugs and replacing cam phazers and exhaust manifolds while in there kinda sucked. It really gave me a good excuse to trade it in and get the diesel.

[dannygraves]

I had a '98 c2500 and it was an alright truck, after the shitty fuel pump was replaced, shitty fuel injection fixed, shitty intake gaskets replaced, shitty radiator replaced, etc. etc. I bought it w/ 250,000 miles off teh original owner it was a regular cab long bed in base work truck trim.
The guy told me he changed the oil regularly but didn't change the trans fluid until 200,000. The 4l80e was an awesome trans (unlike the 4l60e). The truck had awesome brakes and handled alright after I replaced a few ball joints. The biggest deal to me though was that when the intake gaskets blew out it left me stranded, late for work and having to renew my AAA over the phone, something none of my fords have ever done. Also, all the coolant in the oil and exhaust messed up a lot of things, the O2 sensors and cats were FUBAR after that, I changed the oil and it still had the same low compression as it had before. Everytime I hit it WFO, oil would spray out where ever it could and it struggled to make it up spring mountain on the way to dumont with a bike and an ice chest in the back.

From what I understand, the 6.0 is a great motor and I think its kick as that yours is holding up, what trans is behind that thing?

[2strokeforever]

the funny thing is at the end of the day all 3 cars are bad fuckign ass

i agree but i still have a personal thing against mustangs

btw the 2.3 ford is a great motor, but to put it in a muscle car is embarassing

stock bottom end

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[M.F.D.B.]

Dude that was a work truck rode HARD and hung up wet with a 1/4 MILLION miles before you ever bought it! LOL Your F*RD you just got rid of was brand new...

I should have video taped our drag race...

Im trying real hard to remember if GM ever let a product hit the market so poorly designed that it needed special tools to negyver it. BTW I have personally seen PLENTY of "Triton" motors blow plugs right out the HOOD that were installed by F*RD. Simply no excuse to let that bullshit leave the drawing board, and my F*RD loving buddies will tell you that. By the way, there is no more HATED motor than that POS 6.0 and my buddies at "Super Duty Shop" here in Vegas will totally agree. The last quality V8 F*RD made with no spark plugs was the 7.3L, they dropped the ball since and havnt proven to be "back in the game just yet" in my opinion. But you will find out soon enough!

I think the Cummins motor, in the Chevy frame with Allison (beefed up) and the Dodge front end (solid axle coil over, better design than F*RDs radius arm) would be "the" setup. Some would argue the F*RD for the frame but they are just too dam FUGLY and the new Chevy trucks look way better then the rest, but I will admit Dodge has come a long way, but still ugly.

Then again, if I had money to waste id build a K5 Blazer with NP205, Allison with one of those 8-sumpin liter Cummins they put in Diesel pushers and drop 4 link coilovers in front and back with Dana 60's with air lockers over 35-37" tires. Or hell, maybe ever go all the way and do Rockwell 2.5's...

Try and break that shit!

[AlisoBob]

I have personally seen PLENTY of "Triton" motors blow plugs right out the HOOD that were installed by F*RD.

X2.

I had a fleet of 200 F-250's to manage, blowing sparkplugs out was a daily event.

We used to take it back to FERD, but they would only repair the blown out one, when the issue was with a soft head casting. It was only a matter of time before the other 3 blew too.
F/U dealer.....

My guys got real good at installing those inserts. No issues after that.

The V-10 trucks did it too.

I bought a block (25) of Chevy Silverados, threw those into the FERD fleet. No more blowing plugs oug, 20,000 mile brake jobs, or black tranny fluid.

You couldnt pay me to own a Ferd.

[Roostius_Maximus]

i've put on a rear set of pads and wrecked 1 rear rotor cuz a rock jammed it
havent needed any on the front, i usually steer the truck with the brake and slow it down with the tire tho

[dannygraves]

Dude that was a work truck rode HARD and hung up wet with a 1/4 MILLION miles before you ever bought it! LOL Your F*RD you just got rid of was brand new...

I should have video taped our drag race...

Im trying real hard to remember if GM ever let a product hit the market so poorly designed that it needed special tools to negyver it. BTW I have personally seen PLENTY of "Triton" motors blow plugs right out the HOOD that were installed by F*RD. Simply no excuse to let that bullshit leave the drawing board, and my F*RD loving buddies will tell you that. By the way, there is no more HATED motor than that POS 6.0 and my buddies at "Super Duty Shop" here in Vegas will totally agree. The last quality V8 F*RD made with no spark plugs was the 7.3L, they dropped the ball since and havnt proven to be "back in the game just yet" in my opinion. But you will find out soon enough!

I think the Cummins motor, in the Chevy frame with Allison (beefed up) and the Dodge front end (solid axle coil over, better design than F*RDs radius arm) would be "the" setup. Some would argue the F*RD for the frame but they are just too dam FUGLY and the new Chevy trucks look way better then the rest, but I will admit Dodge has come a long way, but still ugly.

Then again, if I had money to waste id build a K5 Blazer with NP205, Allison with one of those 8-sumpin liter Cummins they put in Diesel pushers and drop 4 link coilovers in front and back with Dana 60's with air lockers over 35-37" tires. Or hell, maybe ever go all the way and do Rockwell 2.5's...

Try and break that shit!

LOL, ok, I'll give you guy the sparkl plugs, but atleast non of those tritons needed the tank dorpped for the pump or the waterpump replaced, both before 100k Of coarse, I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing now, reminds me of high school speech an debate, should I start defending dodge now?

Actually in your perfect truck, I'd use the cummins motor and the dodge 6 spd manual (was it the nv5600, can't remember) in teh ford chassis, higher payload, more roomy cab, bigger brakes strong ass solid front axle setup and the ability to run 35" tires unmodified or 37" tires with a 2" leveling kit. You put 37s on your chevy chassis and you'll fuck up your whole suspension geometry and run a nasty drive shaft angle, plus have such tall blocks that ladder bars will be needed. Allison trannys require a dustpan after 500hp and ddges new 6spd auto 68fre (I think) is a reverse engineered allison copy and also requires a dustpan . Ford 5r110w takes 560hp/1200ftlb all day long
The 6.0 was the result of navistar (international) having to meet epa while competing with the new badass dmax at the time. Nearly all of the issues can be sourced back to emmissions crap, egr cooler created so much heat that the head bolts (shitty torque to yeild design) would be fatuged causing the notorious blown headgaskets (which was the cause of like 99% of the engine failures), shitty turbo drain pipe and wire harness rubbing (both the result of making all that crap shoe horn into a van chassis).
If I found a clean enough 6.0l which had apr head studs, egr delete and the '07 turbo and drainage tube, I'd consider it.
The one big problem with the 6.0 was their some where inbetween injection that still used HPOP, which was totally solid in the 7.3, but the refined 6.0 system was too sensitive and if dirty fuel was used or fuel filter not replaced in time, some could see some nasty failures. This was because the injection system needed to burn cleaner than the rock solid 7.3 system. but those HPOP failures couldn't hold a candle to the LB7 flooded crank case bosch injector problem

[M.F.D.B.]

Actually in your perfect truck, I'd use the cummins motor and the dodge 6 spd manual (was it the nv5600, can't remember) in teh ford chassis, higher payload, more roomy cab, bigger brakes strong ass solid front axle setup and the ability to run 35" tires unmodified or 37" tires with a 2" leveling kit.

Nah, Radius arm/leaf setup is old school and crappy, handles like SHIT. Dodges solid axle 4 link coil over FTW!! You 4 link coil over the rear and you have a friggin monster truck that rides like a Caddy...

You put 37s on your chevy chassis and you'll fuck up your whole suspension geometry and run a nasty drive shaft angle, plus have such tall blocks that ladder bars will be needed.

You high? Proper lift kits lower everything down and correct pinion angle, but besides that, who in the hell needs 37" tires on a truck that is used for truck stuff? 37's are for Flat Billers with 22" rims and low profile mudder tires, homo's...90% of the trucks I see on over 35" tires never see dirt or towing anyways...Besides that, on a hi-brid bad ass super heavy duty truck made up of Dodge, F*RD or Chevy parts, who would put flimsy IFS on it?

Allison trannys require a dustpan after 500hp and ddges new 6spd auto 68fre (I think) is a reverse engineered allison copy and also requires a dustpan

Big loud Borat NNNNOOOTTTT!!! Only in stock form, there are 9 second Duramax's running Allisons...

Ford 5r110w takes 560hp/1200ftlb all day long

Yeah like that things been around long enough to know, guess we will see on your truck eh?

The 6.0 was the result of navistar (international) having to meet epa while competing with the new badass dmax at the time. Nearly all of the issues can be sourced back to emmissions crap, egr cooler created so much heat that the head bolts (shitty torque to yeild design) would be fatuged causing the notorious blown headgaskets (which was the cause of like 99% of the engine failures), shitty turbo drain pipe and wire harness rubbing (both the result of making all that crap shoe horn into a van chassis).

Isnt that the same EPA regs that Chevy and Dodge had to deal with to?

This was because the injection system needed to burn cleaner than the rock solid 7.3 system. but those HPOP failures couldn't hold a candle to the LB7 flooded crank case bosch injector problem

You mean like your truck is doing every time it "re-gens"...

[AlisoBob]

LOL, ok, I'll give you guy the sparkl plugs, but at least non of those tritons needed the tank dropped to replace the ( fuel pump) before 100k miles.

Hey doosh bag...... I'll have you know that every GM "in tank" pump I've replaced ( about 632 of them at last count) all had AT LEAST 112k miles on them.

[dannygraves]

LOL, ok, I'll give you guy the sparkl plugs, but at least non of those tritons needed the tank dropped to replace the ( fuel pump) before 100k miles.

Hey doosh bag...... I'll have you know that every GM "in tank" pump I've replaced ( about 632 of them at last count) all had AT LEAST 112k miles on them.

last one I did was 91. my buddy dan did 2nd at 144

[AlisoBob]

My buddy dan did 2nd at 144

144k is almost some kind of record.

[dannygraves]

this lady at work name Tina had a '02 silverado 1500 w/ ~160k, her fuel pump went, mechanic charged her like $800 and he said it had been replaced before. Very common here in the NV dez, the heat kills them faster.

[dannygraves]

Actually in your perfect truck, I'd use the cummins motor and the dodge 6 spd manual (was it the nv5600, can't remember) in teh ford chassis, higher payload, more roomy cab, bigger brakes strong ass solid front axle setup and the ability to run 35" tires unmodified or 37" tires with a 2" leveling kit.

Nah, Radius arm/leaf setup is old school and crappy, handles like SHIT. Dodges solid axle 4 link coil over FTW!! You 4 link coil over the rear and you have a friggin monster truck that rides like a Caddy...

You put 37s on your chevy chassis and you'll fuck up your whole suspension geometry and run a nasty drive shaft angle, plus have such tall blocks that ladder bars will be needed.

You high? Proper lift kits lower everything down and correct pinion angle, but besides that, who in the hell needs 37" tires on a truck that is used for truck stuff? 37's are for Flat Billers with 22" rims and low profile mudder tires, homo's...90% of the trucks I see on over 35" tires never see dirt or towing anyways...Besides that, on a hi-brid bad ass super heavy duty truck made up of Dodge, F*RD or Chevy parts, who would put flimsy IFS on it?

Allison trannys require a dustpan after 500hp and ddges new 6spd auto 68fre (I think) is a reverse engineered allison copy and also requires a dustpan

Big loud Borat NNNNOOOTTTT!!! Only in stock form, there are 9 second Duramax's running Allisons...

Ford 5r110w takes 560hp/1200ftlb all day long

Yeah like that things been around long enough to know, guess we will see on your truck eh?

The 6.0 was the result of navistar (international) having to meet epa while competing with the new badass dmax at the time. Nearly all of the issues can be sourced back to emmissions crap, egr cooler created so much heat that the head bolts (shitty torque to yeild design) would be fatuged causing the notorious blown headgaskets (which was the cause of like 99% of the engine failures), shitty turbo drain pipe and wire harness rubbing (both the result of making all that crap shoe horn into a van chassis).

Isnt that the same EPA regs that Chevy and Dodge had to deal with to?

This was because the injection system needed to burn cleaner than the rock solid 7.3 system. but those HPOP failures couldn't hold a candle to the LB7 flooded crank case bosch injector problem

You mean like your truck is doing every time it "re-gens"...

aint no leafs on the front of my truck I seem to remember you talking about wishing you could clear 37s, maybe when I do a level and 37s on 17s we'll see which truck makes it further out at ute or something

Dodge managed to meet the EPAs requirements w/o even using EGR on the pre '07.5 trucks...WAY

GM and dodge have the same issues with regens, and dodges trucks even catch fire from plugged DPFs, besides, I just got the call, my 4" downpipe back AFE exhaust is ready for Andy to pickup.

Oh, and the 5r110w is 8 years old, FYI with some new features for the job2 '08 trucks.

[M.F.D.B.]

Well someones lying then, because I have seen plenty of big tune Super Dutys with trashed trans...

When I wanted to clear 37's I was looking for a way to do it without lifting the truck (widened fenders and arms, etc.) remember? To avoid having to air down to tow in the sand. Basically the opposite of every other big tire, super lifted, 36" drop hitch, star covered Duraturds out there...

No 909 here mofos...

[dannygraves]

Well someones lying then, because I have seen plenty of big tune Super Dutys with trashed trans...

When I wanted to clear 37's I was looking for a way to do it without lifting the truck (widened fenders and arms, etc.) remember? To avoid having to air down to tow in the sand. Basically the opposite of every other big tire, super lifted, 36" drop hitch, star covered Duraturds out there...

No 909 here mofos...

I know, just giving you shit.
I'm still debating, stock w/ 35s or 2" level w/ 37... I will probably keep it stock and do 35s mostly because of cost, 37" tires =$$$$ 35 is very common so the price is far more reasonable. My stock tires are 33", so no real point in keeping it that way, 33" offroad tires look TINY on that body.
Most of the trashed 5r110ws are from not running ladderbars with a lift, the axle wrap creates a nasty springing effect that kills trannies.

here is a truck, same as mine w/ a big lift all flatbillered out running the same tuner I ordered.

[dannygraves]

also, my point wasn't that the 5r110w is indestructable, they just hold more power stock than the dodge or allison and when they finally fail a basic rebuild with some HD parts is all you need, allisons flip the fuck out and go into limp mode at a way lower power level and when forced to exceed this w/o to addition of HD components they blow up into a thousand peices.
stock for stock, I think the allison is superior in the cool gear selection and engine braking features, but anything beyone a basic plug in tune of like +120 and it gets VERY costly.

[M.F.D.B.]

Thats why smart people leave shit alone...

My measly stock truck will smoke the tires with a 24ft loaded toy hauler on the back and I dont have to worry about breaking 500 miles from home only to get my warranty voided when I tow it to the nearest dealer for repairs...

[NightBiker07]

the 6.0 and the 6.4 were garbage, and Navistar wouldnt stand behind them. not to say that those motors didnt run good....they ran real good.....when they ran.

they ought to revamp the 7.3 and bring it back......goddamn bulletproof.

[M.F.D.B.]

they ought to revamp the 7.3 and bring it back......goddamn bulletproof.

You will never see big diesels ever again and can thank the tofu farting tree hugging eco-morons in Kommiefornia for that...

[britincali]

this lady at work name Tina had a '02 silverado 1500 w/ ~160k, her fuel pump went, mechanic charged her like $800 and he said it had been replaced before. Very common here in the NV dez, the heat kills them faster.

Nothing to do with the desert but it is heat that kills them, anytime Ive done a fuel pump on a chevy my first question to the customer was "how low do you run your tank before you put gas in" every single one of them told me how far they can go with the low fuel light on.....

No gas = pumps running in air = heat = quick dead chevy pump.

[britincali]

they ought to revamp the 7.3 and bring it back......goddamn bulletproof.

You will never see big diesels ever again and can thank the tofu farting tree hugging eco-morons in Kommiefornia for that...

You dont think 6+ liters is big????????????

The non commercial truck motors in this county are fukin huge! Back home 80% of the cars on the road are diesel and most of them are under 1.8L shit they even have 1.0L 4 cyl turbo intercooled diesels getting 60+ to the gallon ....