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Posted: July 6th, 2010, 2:49 am
by durkn
[quote="ou812"]The front label reads as follow's " Castrol Racing A747 2 cycle oil, Not to be exposed to tempertures below 0c.
My understanding from 250 TZ and RS riders is it is the best oil period for the application they need but with the following drawbacks.
1) Only stays truely mixed for 6 to 8 hours, re shaking after does not truely remix it.
So I don't imagine people are dumping mixed fuel daily, unless you're racing TZR's at 15K RPM?
Posted: August 30th, 2010, 5:32 pm
by 100hp honda
guess ill throw in my 2 cents. i havent actually determined what temp the castor seperates from gas but ive had a bottle of straight castor in temps well below freezing and it aint pretty what happens. heres something i stumbled on by accident: bottle on the left is straight 91 gas, middle is mixed, right was mixed but sat in the back of my truck for a week with the lid on in roughly 85* temp. did the color just get bleached out ? is all the lube properties gone ? probly both im guessing.

Posted: August 30th, 2010, 6:54 pm
by M.F.D.B.
Petroleum dye prolly isnt UV stabilized so sun bleaching doesnt necessarily mean lubrication has suffered. When you saw the 927 separate once the temp warmed back up did it remix?
Posted: August 30th, 2010, 7:16 pm
by 100hp honda
huh ? never used 927. used klotz beenoil since day one, which is red. jug on the right, used to look like the jug in the middle, sat in the back of my truck for a week in 85* temp and turned yellow (it used to be red). wish there was a way to test if the oil is still good because obviously the color is gone. no amount of shaking will make it red again. make sense ? it was red but now is yellow, fawkin wierd

Posted: August 30th, 2010, 8:56 pm
by seanmx57
test = run it

Posted: August 30th, 2010, 9:37 pm
by M.F.D.B.
Castor beans are not red nor are their oils, the red you see is petroleum dye, something I wish 927 had in it so its easy to tell if your gas has been "mixed". The dye doesnt yield any lubrication so it doesnt matter if the sun has bleached the dye. If you put a cup of just bean oil in a glass sealed in the sun im sure it will UV bleach as well. SEPERATION of the oil is a totally different and far worse anomaly than dye bleaching out. You never answered my question about the pre-mix that was frozen?
Posted: August 31st, 2010, 5:40 am
by KE 336
Pour a small amount in a little cup and let the gas evaporate. You should see a small oil residue in the bottom when the gas dries up.
Posted: August 31st, 2010, 8:38 am
by dannygraves
why do you keep your fuel in milk jugs??
Posted: August 31st, 2010, 8:50 am
by AlisoBob
dannygraves wrote:why do you keep your fuel in milk jugs??
All the top hillclimbers do Danny....
Scheeze............

Posted: August 31st, 2010, 9:02 am
by M.F.D.B.
Posted: August 31st, 2010, 8:00 pm
by 100hp honda
M.F.D.B. wrote:Castor beans are not red nor are their oils, the red you see is petroleum dye, something I wish 927 had in it so its easy to tell if your gas has been "mixed". The dye doesnt yield any lubrication so it doesnt matter if the sun has bleached the dye. If you put a cup of just bean oil in a glass sealed in the sun im sure it will UV bleach as well. SEPERATION of the oil is a totally different and far worse anomaly than dye bleaching out. You never answered my question about the pre-mix that was frozen?
i know their not red, the klotz put coloring in there. i didnt freeze premix, i put a staight bottle of castor outside in the winter. the top portion seemed to have some sort of frost bite, the lower half was harder than bob at a michael jackson concert

Posted: August 31st, 2010, 8:53 pm
by M.F.D.B.
Wook, is this true?
Posted: September 1st, 2010, 8:05 am
by dannygraves
M.F.D.B. wrote:
Wook, is this true?
well, yeah, that is where he picks up all the jail bait

Posted: September 1st, 2010, 8:10 am
by dannygraves
Posted: September 29th, 2010, 12:06 pm
by qkenuf4u
THANKS FOR THE INFO !! looks like ill be running 927 in the new motor... ill try to only mix enough gas that i know ill use up and it wont sit around in my tank....
Posted: September 29th, 2010, 2:34 pm
by AlisoBob
I've had 927 premix sitting around for months..... no issues.
Posted: September 29th, 2010, 3:31 pm
by M.F.D.B.
Yeah cuz its 132F wait till its gets near freezing and see what happends...

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 5:06 pm
by AlisoBob
Chula Vista Monday......

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 5:30 pm
by qkenuf4u
AlisoBob wrote:
Chula Vista Monday......

actually it was only 107*

...... but your humidity may have been way high...
why do people think temp guages in the car are gonna be right ???

no way for it to be right... the glass absorbs heat, metal absorbs heat,in direct sunlight, etc....

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 9:39 pm
by dannygraves
it was still effin' hot out!

I got in an arguement with a dude at seth's karate class today, he claimed to have been golfing in 122* temps by nellis AFB some years back, the record for vegas is 117* @ mccarran

he is also a 400lb fatty at about 5'9", so I think he would have died golfing in any temps above 90

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 9:50 pm
by qkenuf4u
dannygraves wrote:it was still effin' hot out!

I got in an arguement with a dude at seth's karate class today, he claimed to have been golfing in 122* temps by nellis AFB some years back, the record for vegas is 117* @ mccarran

he is also a 400lb fatty at about 5'9", so I think he would have died golfing in any temps above 90

LMAO !! i know all about hot.. im in lake havasu city arizona. usually 10* hotter than phoenix but drier.... (5% humidity thank god) but ill take it over the crap ass weather of rainsylvania...

Posted: September 29th, 2010, 10:20 pm
by britincali
qkenuf4u wrote:
why do people think temp guages in the car are gonna be right ???

no way for it to be right... the glass absorbs heat, metal absorbs heat,in direct sunlight, etc....

Thats why the temp senders are mounted behind the front bumper

Posted: September 30th, 2010, 8:14 am
by M.F.D.B.
The only time a temp sensor reads incorrectly high is when you sit still for a long time and engine heat soaks it...
Danny, dont forget that McCarren is the "official temp" but other places can be higher... (just not 122 degrees, lol)
Posted: September 30th, 2010, 8:31 am
by qkenuf4u
M.F.D.B. wrote:just not 122 degrees, lol)
actually i
HAS BEEN 122* both here in havasu and phoenix a time or two...

ill still take it over 90* w/ 90% humidity anyday... oh and 350days a year riding helps out...

Posted: September 30th, 2010, 9:03 am
by M.F.D.B.
I was reffering to Vegas when I said other places (than McCarren airport). Shit, right next door at Death Valley they prolly laugh at "measly" 122F... LOL
AlisoBob wrote:
Chula Vista Monday......

Anyone else spot the Jack Links Sasquach in this pic??
P.S. Wook, that phone looks like its been to hell and back!!