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AJ wrote:
In the meantime any builder coming here posting "time to rock this place" ' or"X against the industry standard"then charging a premium price, taking months to deliver and still not delivered. And the customer after paying for a conversion still left to work out detials like the airbox fitment?
Would get filleted in here?.



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Very valid point and I would say yes.

Frank are we good?

ok one more post. I did choose to do the airbox. payment was never an issue he said he would not start work until deposit was made. was paid in april. paid in full on nov 24 to be exact. now mike and I have worked everything out. I was just frustated and somehow this now hs turned ito war on aj again. how many have called aj to ask him a question? im sure he answered it. he has always helped me out and is one cool ass kat with one thing in mind. the cr500. now as far as my frame goes its outta mikes hands right now. powdercoaters fucked it up and they have to re-do it. will be done friday. mike said he will work on it and ship it monday. mike and I have always been cool, but afterall we all are pricks and lose our cool sometimes. sometimes it warrented sometimes not. at the end of the day we are still hoons right? we not me cause mike still has my frame. hahahaha

aloha450x wrote:...this now hs turned ito war on aj again.

Nope, no "war" on AJ or S/H. AJ is one cool dude, that is a fact.

What AJ refuses to do is address two isssues...

1. Why is there such a wide range of quality of the bikes S/H produces. I have commented that I have seen beautiful ones, ugly ducklings, and some in between.

2. Is S/H making improvements to their Q/C to address the issue?

People like this fourm because it speaks the truth.... The fact Mike is having to explain things is proof of that.

I would be very happy if AJ posted whats new for 2009, in this regard.

Just like I asked him to do in 2008, 2007........

AJ should post up recent photos from his shop, and show perspective customers the current quality that is being offered. If the bike they receive looks different, then they have a leg to stand on.

Yet, he dosent, and to me that means only one thing...



S/H gave birth to Teem Trubble Motorsports, if they want to admit it , or not.

EVERY TTM bike will look just like this.....



It just may take some extra time to see it....

AlisoBob wrote:

AJ wrote: As far as rail alighnment it is. Take a photo of a crf250x at the same angle...

S/H

Bob's homemade CR500A/FX

Whats that suspose to prove?

And why didnt you address Tystyx's question?

Uuuh, Bob. Your kicker bolt is missing Clean build!!!!

Good call Pimp, also coolent lines & a pipe

someone correct me on this but frank could not have aven ordered a 450 conversion bike from service honda because they only use the 250r/x frame.



i don't care what any of you bitches think, i just ordered my second TEEM TRUBBLE bike today. so lets start the clock on this one and i know it will be just as perfect as the first one.

You da man Ryan!

should'nt you receive, ride, post, for the rest of us before you order another

arleybeer40 wrote:should'nt you receive, ride, post, for the rest of us before you order another

arley have you had the pleasure of riding a TTM bike, if you have...then you know the 50th bike will be just as good as the 1st. have another soma and some jager....it will all come back to you!



i pick up my first one this week.....that one is a red sticker bike because i wanted a zero time frame to go with the zero time motor and went crazy on the options. the second bike will be a green sticker using my motor from my steel 01' and have less upgrades.

i plan on the jager, dont want the slomas though, unless i crash as bad again at adelanto

teamdns wrote:...so lets start the clock on this one and i know it will be just as perfect as the first one.

( )

I'm glad Frank and Mike worked it all out.
cool deal.


it comes down to something thats avoided like th eplague in this forum..
several builders have come and gone.
thats one of the variables ,
and if this forum wants to actually educat ean dinform the readersghip her ethat should be a point?
,how much is tjhis thier primary business, and how long will they stay with it or interested. it is an unknown, and should be considered.
wether me or mike are good guys ,
has nothing to do with that variable, and its an important one to most riders.



earlier I was just pointing out that as things were presented here,
the last thing that should have come up ,
in this thread, is any other builders work.

i would think anyone here, inclusive of mike and bob would agree with that.

but hey it always does,.
regardless if its me , Freds, Gertrudes or Victors..,

i just find it amusing and a bit ironic.
so pointed it out. big deal..


The fact my pointing it out brought such responce ,
just shows that it hit close to home with some posters.
and that din't really surprise me either.


since this place is an open airing out of opinions , thats certainly to be expected.
the kid gloves arnt.



on the other subject.
Cosmetically is what you want to dog SH out on..
that's very subjective.
but hey its the beef you have on my bikes, so run with it.
I understand, and do take the critism openly and as a good thing.
but it is for another thread , which i see someone started.
i'll answer there when i can.



carry on..

AJ wrote:

it comes down to something thats avoided like th eplague in this forum..
several builders have come and gone.

Huh?

The only builders who have " Come and Gone" are T2 ( Track Time Motorsports, the builder of Iggro's bike), and Halo Motorsports ( the builder of Hell Bears bike).

Neither were site members, or recommended builders.

I dont see what your trying to get at?

AlisoBob wrote:

aloha450x wrote:...this now hs turned ito war on aj again.

Nope, no "war" on AJ or S/H. AJ is one cool dude, that is a fact.

What AJ refuses to do is address two isssues...

1. Why is there such a wide range of quality of the bikes S/H produces. I have commented that I have seen beautiful ones, ugly ducklings, and some in between.

2. Is S/H making improvements to their Q/C to address the issue?

People like this fourm because it speaks the truth.... The fact Mike is having to explain things is proof of that.

I would be very happy if AJ posted whats new for 2009, in this regard.

Just like I asked him to do in 2008, 2007........

AJ should post up recent photos from his shop, and show perspective customers the current quality that is being offered. If the bike they receive looks different, then they have a leg to stand on.

Yet, he dosent, and to me that means only one thing...



S/H gave birth to Teem Trubble Motorsports, if they want to admit it , or not.

EVERY TTM bike will look just like this.....



It just may take some extra time to see it....

aj what about these ?'s

team dns

i clearly stated i would answer them in the appropriate thread,
and that i take the input here, into consideration.


i have questions of my own,
but likely guys will get all twisted if i ask them.
sure you want to go down that road?

things are all warm and fuzzy now,
LOL i'd hate to spoil the fun.
since ya'll have much more fun with SH on the grill right?

aj,

brit started a thread for you...please answer them there....that would be great.

AJ wrote:

i have questions of my own,
but likely guys will get all twisted if i ask them.
sure you want to go down that road?

Absoultly.... ask away...

Form fit feel and finsh expect nothing less...

Awesome work Mike!

Absoultly.... ask away...

hey there bob,
glad you don't mind
it is time to start rocking this place afterall?

1.Why did mike contact me to ask numerous questions on gen 3 125 builds?
i mean i suck according to most here. right?
why all the interest in what i did 5 years ago?
man i must have REALLY sucked way back then.

2.why did mikes billet frame pieces for gen 3 125 conversions
not long after contacting me
match in structural design my
gen 3 CR125 bases 500AF LE's?

and yes we all know the time line well..
even though you'll both likely try and hodge it or deny it.

3.do the pipes Mike is selling and you both boasting over having for sale now ,
say SH500AF on the PC stamping?
yes or no will do.

i don't expect honest answers though.

4. just how many times did mike call FMF?
and for that matter PC? l do know the answers ,so try and remember..


5.bob, why did you post a warm and fuzzy little "story" on here about american free enterprise,
(oh the irony there)
and giggle like little schoolgirls over TTM/mike buying
PC SH500AF pipes/silencers for his bikes?

and dog out FMF for telling mike quite appropriately . no.
telling him they would honor thier agreenment with Service Honda since we had helped with ,and more importantly PAID for the initial development of those pipes and silencers as well as place a decade of the REQUIRED minimum orders for them, just like we did with PC?

6. hey ..what was the date of mikes PC pipe order? LOL ,
is it not a strange coencedence that his order was built and tacked onto a much larger order SH placed during the same time?

glad i could help a hoon out by already meeting the miniumum order on pipes i paid the design for..he could just tack his order on.. to one SH has an exclusive agreement for ,
exactly because of those minimum orders and initial set up fee requirements.

hey if PC *cough* forgot the agreement , it still doesn't make it right.
(especially when taking the orders together, which they did)

you might want to be courteous instead of gloat or boast.
or rather be embarrased.

and yes we had been selling the pipes to any hoon that needed them..
before that.


when you want to use stuff i paid to design, please instead design
your own , or pay someone to design it for you, or buy them from me.
that's the american way.

i guess i should be glad mike has a machine shop eh?
as just like the pipes maybe he wouldnt bother making frame billet pieces and instead just buy them from my CNC vendors?

you know, just tack that mikey order on to the rather large one that Service honda just made,
heck what will it hurt ? would save him machine time ...
never mind that SH paid for the design or the developlent costs, or ten years of minimum orders.. right?

lol a few of you truly crack me up. seriously



here i'll give you the contact for my CNC guys mike.
you seem behind in machine time anyway..

my humantarian and autristic notions for getting you going,
are as strong as bobs and a number of other hoons here right?

you do great work , i've NEVER knocked it,
but since every thread here turns into a "MTT vs Service HONDA "
thread..
all throw out there tha tthe Servicxe honda frame pieces are certainly just as good if not styled a bit better.(and time tested and proven)

no harsh angles to correct the gen3 125 main down tube angle..
. just a tad smoother and straighter approach..
but afterall thats a 5 year old design..


its been awhile , i dont have better photos ..
at the moment..

and hey i've used a couple CNC vendors ,
kind of just like on the pipes and silencers!
maybe if ya keep nagging them , one of them might crack ,, (just like the pipe thing) it will save your CNC time.
maybe all be equally glad i could help eh?
lol



bob

you want to inform , then inform


without omitting parts of a story, or all if the information.


now continue with the typical
"huh?poor me , the innocent bystander,always only hunting for the truth"
act

you play it so well
oscar material i'm telling ya!

go hoon go!!

i like it!
great amusing stuff bro.