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Posted: June 29th, 2008, 4:13 pm
by quantum500
How did everybody fail to mention the new Dodge auto built in japan? Asin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ai ... nsmissions The heavy duty trucks (4500 5500) come with a 180,000 mile warranty on the transmission. 3500 and 2500 have to special ordered or you get the crap tranny. Dodge is going to be the only manufacture of full size trucks with a standard tranny available in the 09' model year. I'm not a big fan of auto anyhow. I don't care how great they are if you really pull them they die.

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 4:28 pm
by 100hp honda
teemtrubble wrote:
100hp honda wrote:drive a new cummins before you make any decision :wink:
They would have to build a much better transmission before you could ever consider that.
is the 6spd manual garbage or just the automatic ?

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 4:28 pm
by dannygraves
cummins 6 w/ 6 speed manual it what I'm talkin' about!
and inline 6 makes more torque pound for pound than a v8, why do you think the big commercial motors aren't v8s?

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 4:30 pm
by 100hp honda
quantum500 wrote:How did everybody fail to mention the new Dodge auto built in japan? Asin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ai ... nsmissions The heavy duty trucks (4500 5500) come with a 180,000 mile warranty on the transmission. 3500 and 2500 have to special ordered or you get the crap tranny. Dodge is going to be the only manufacture of full size trucks with a standard tranny available in the 09' model year. I'm not a big fan of auto anyhow. I don't care how great they are if you really pull them they die.
i hear that. you couldnt pay me to drive a auto tranny vehicle. if there aint a clutch and gears i dont want anything to do with it

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 4:31 pm
by Blusmbl
The Dodge 6 speed is okay. The earlier 12V trucks had a 5 speed instead, and those were known for losing 5th gear.

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 4:34 pm
by 100hp honda
dannygraves wrote:cummins 6 w/ 6 speed manual it what I'm talkin' about!
and inline 6 makes more torque pound for pound than a v8, why do you think the big commercial motors aren't v8s?
hellz ya boyeee. cummins with 6spd manual would pull bobs house and brits double wide :headbang:

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 5:01 pm
by britincali
The cummins is a bad ass motor especially the older 24 valve ones, Im not sold on the new bluetech ones tho.

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 5:04 pm
by dannygraves
100hp honda wrote:
dannygraves wrote:cummins 6 w/ 6 speed manual it what I'm talkin' about!
and inline 6 makes more torque pound for pound than a v8, why do you think the big commercial motors aren't v8s?
hellz ya boyeee. cummins with 6spd manual would pull bobs house and brits double wide :headbang:
fuck ya! :D

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 8:10 pm
by Slomo
britincali wrote:The cummins is a bad ass motor especially the older 24 valve ones, Im not sold on the new bluetech ones tho.

uhhhhhhhhh.... having owned both... the 3rd gens are the bomb diggity.
Mine with an intake, built auto trans, and a Smarty on level 9 will SMOKE new Mustangs and those annoying rice rockets.
Ever see an 8,000 pound truck roast the tires for a block :lol: :lol: :3g:

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 11:13 pm
by quantum500
Bottom line: if you want a nice well mannered diesel pickup buy a chevy. Rides nice has great power, good auto tranny, and over all the lightest diesel pickup made. If you want something that the dealer hates to see pulling up into a service bay buy a ford 6.0 or later. If you want a truck that tows awesome and your not afraid of a standard tranny buy a dodge. Of course there are lemons out of any group. Personally I wouldn't mind a Dodge or a Chevy/GMC or a clean 2002 or older ford 7.3. Absolutely not a 6.0 or later power stroke. Those are some of the most unreliable vehicles ever put on the road.

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 11:31 pm
by Ported&Polished
I agree with everything quantum500 said and will add that if you buy a Chevy, don't go 1 inch out of the dealer lot without a long warrentee, because that puppy will be seeing the shop on a regular basis. :D

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 7:08 am
by dannygraves
I had a friend who bought a brand new 6.0 f250 in 2004 and it died on his way home from the dealer. Blew a bunch of white smoke and wouldn't start.
The last time I dropped my f-150 off at the dealer, the guy infront of me in line had a 6.0 that kept coming back, and I actually heard the service manager tell him that there was sand in the pan from the casting process :roll: those are junk!
Andy (hoofarted) has an '03 excursion with a 7.3 and he is having tranny issues, but loves the motor, he just got a BRP exhaust and a tuner and all sorts of stuff for it, says it hauls ballz.

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 7:39 am
by 100hp honda
bob what you doing with the truck ? dodge has alot of ground clearance for stock truck and heavy duty front axle- chevy has really poor ground cleance and torsion bar IFS :?

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 8:10 am
by teamdns
this all he wants to do with it



Posted: June 30th, 2008, 8:16 am
by dannygraves
:D

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 8:18 am
by teamdns
bob here is the link to maverick's buddy with the fast 4500 we were chatting about


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=29291947

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 8:48 am
by AlisoBob


12.18 et
114mph

:twisted:

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 9:04 am
by dannygraves
damn! :twisted:

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 9:09 am
by 100hp honda

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 10:10 am
by hoofarted
dannygraves wrote:Andy (hoofarted) has an '03 excursion with a 7.3 and he is having tranny issues, but loves the motor, he just got a BRP exhaust and a tuner and all sorts of stuff for it, says it hauls ballz.
Ya I love my 7.3 - unfortunately, I found the weak link: the 4R100 trans. It isnt a current D-Max, but I can haul 9 people and tow my 28' WW.

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 10:17 am
by britincali
hoofarted wrote: Ya I love my 7.3 - unfortunately, I found the weak link: the 4R100 trans. .


I have the same tranny in my F150 and its been good so far, the way to keep 'em alive is install an aftermarked valve body. I have a fatory tech valve body in mine and its been taking 500 rwtq and 400 horse for over 2 years now (and im not gentle...)

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 10:20 am
by hoofarted
britincali wrote:
hoofarted wrote: Ya I love my 7.3 - unfortunately, I found the weak link: the 4R100 trans. .


I have the same tranny in my F150 and its been good so far, the way to keep 'em alive is install an aftermarked valve body. I have a fatory tech valve body in mine and its been taking 500 rwtq and 400 horse for over 2 years now (and im not gentle...)
Ya - been wanting an upgraded VB - from BTS - supposed to be 'da shit. No more lagging shifts from slipping the TC. I hate that! But when 3-4 locks up, that truck moved! Will keep that in mind as I am looking for a reputable shop in my area to diagnose it. Stupid autozone scanner wont read tranny codes...ugh.

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 10:23 am
by dannygraves
I'm serious dude, just put some more fluid in it and go!

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 10:25 am
by hoofarted
dannygraves wrote:I'm serious dude, just put some more fluid in it and go!
dude - fluid is full. Did the full flush, new filter, etc. So now it doesnt wanna shift out of 1st until I get off the go pedal. Strange. On the way home, tranny temps started rising quickly to 200. :shock: O/D light is flashing - something's up...just dunno what.

Posted: June 30th, 2008, 10:29 am
by britincali
hoofarted wrote:
dannygraves wrote:I'm serious dude, just put some more fluid in it and go!
dude - fluid is full. Did the full flush, new filter, etc. So now it doesnt wanna shift out of 1st until I get off the go pedal. Strange. On the way home, tranny temps started rising quickly to 200. :shock: O/D light is flashing - something's up...just dunno what.


It needs a teardown, take it to a shop before you break anything else.


IIRC there is some big C clip in these trannys that can break then they wont shift while under load.