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Posted: June 11th, 2008, 8:33 am
by britincali
Slow old Fart wrote:
That is definetly one problem area of a 450 but the method I did my 2 by works fine but if you can adapt a new boot of some type that fits perfrectly would be better but I could not find one. One guy I built a 450 for told me he used a heat gun and stretched the boot to work correctly but my attempts to do this resulted in a split boot.



Post a pic of the hack job, I need a good laugh today.

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 8:50 am
by ou812
It's all getting very clear as to why SOF does not post pics.

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 8:52 am
by dannygraves
AlisoBob wrote:
britincali wrote: That, without a shadow of a doubt is the biggest piece of shit info that has ever been typed on this site.
What about me rallying the troops behind Big Jay when he blew his shit up with plugged radiators, like a dumbass.....

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ya, fucker lied to me too... said the cases weren't damaged! :evil:

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 8:53 am
by britincali
Well aint that a bitch, is that why he stopped posting?

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 8:56 am
by dannygraves
there isn't a hole in the bottom, but a few cracks, with one peice pushed out a little. oil leaking between the cracks!

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 11:14 am
by Uzi
dannygraves wrote: ya, fucker lied to me too... said the cases weren't damaged! :evil:
That blows :(

I know a lot of people myself included tried to help him out on that deal. Guess thats what you get for good intentions and charity :roll:

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 11:20 am
by AlisoBob
I called him.... no answer.

Left message, lets see whats shakes out....

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 11:29 am
by Uzi
Slow old Fart wrote: One guy I built a 450 for
You ask us which oil rusts motors out and what you should run to prevent smelling like 927

You tell us you never had to do anything but drop a frame off with "your guy" and he did all the work to convert it.

Then your building air boots with car parts, JB weld and a Dremel

And now you built a 450 coversion for someone else?

All this and never a single picture of any thing and never a post where you don't contradict something you said before :roll: :roll: :roll:

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 11:31 am
by AlisoBob
I smell one foot, out the door.

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 12:37 pm
by teemtrubble
Uzi wrote:
Slow old Fart wrote: One guy I built a 450 for
You ask us which oil rusts motors out and what you should run to prevent smelling like 927

You tell us you never had to do anything but drop a frame off with "your guy" and he did all the work to convert it.

Then your building air boots with car parts, JB weld and a Dremel

And now you built a 450 coversion for someone else?

All this and never a single picture of any thing and never a post where you don't contradict something you said before :roll: :roll: :roll:
Scott seriously no shit dude WTF! What's happening with Big Jay?

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 12:39 pm
by dannygraves
Uzi wrote:
Slow old Fart wrote: One guy I built a 450 for
You ask us which oil rusts motors out and what you should run to prevent smelling like 927

You tell us you never had to do anything but drop a frame off with "your guy" and he did all the work to convert it.

Then your building air boots with car parts, JB weld and a Dremel

And now you built a 450 coversion for someone else?

All this and never a single picture of any thing and never a post where you don't contradict something you said before :roll: :roll: :roll:
hate to do it... but... X2

I have nothing against shit talkers, I can be a huge shit talker! Go ahead and say it like it is... we're all men here, but doing so without backing it up is just LAME :? I get real tired of the know it all who knows nothing...
just my .02

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 3:01 pm
by Exnav
I get real tired of the know it all who knows nothing...
just my .02
But you really are tired of his Gen 1 shit talking :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



.....................................................me too.

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 3:23 pm
by Slow old Fart
britincali wrote:
Slow old Fart wrote:
That is definetly one problem area of a 450 but the method I did my 2 by works fine but if you can adapt a new boot of some type that fits perfrectly would be better but I could not find one. One guy I built a 450 for told me he used a heat gun and stretched the boot to work correctly but my attempts to do this resulted in a split boot.



Post a pic of the hack job, I need a good laugh today.
Actually it works alot better than you think,I am waiting for someone to come up with a proper solution that is one of the reasons a 250 GEN 3 is better but my solution with shrink rap will look close to factory. If done corectly it flows great or as good as the proper airboot but needs dremel work.

It looks good, thick black duc tape over the outside works fine you do not notice it behind the rail.

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 3:26 pm
by Slow old Fart
dannygraves wrote:
Uzi wrote:
Slow old Fart wrote: One guy I built a 450 for
You ask us which oil rusts motors out and what you should run to prevent smelling like 927

You tell us you never had to do anything but drop a frame off with "your guy" and he did all the work to convert it.

Then your building air boots with car parts, JB weld and a Dremel

And now you built a 450 coversion for someone else?

All this and never a single picture of any thing and never a post where you don't contradict something you said before :roll: :roll: :roll:
hate to do it... but... X2

I have nothing against shit talkers, I can be a huge shit talker! Go ahead and say it like it is... we're all men here, but doing so without backing it up is just LAME :? I get real tired of the know it all who knows nothing...
just my .02
I know not to build a gen one.

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 6:35 pm
by dannygraves
Exnav wrote:
I get real tired of the know it all who knows nothing...
just my .02
But you really are tired of his Gen 1 shit talking :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



.....................................................me too.
hehe...look, gen1 talk again! HAHAHAH :lol:

Posted: June 22nd, 2008, 1:35 pm
by ben
eyesky2002 wrote:Here is how I did my rads, my bike was missing them so I got mine from eBay. The left is a CRF450 rad and the right is a 01 CR250 rad. Only mod needed to the rads themselves was to turn the left bottom outlet up to meet the hose. Now had I got both 01 250 rads I would not have needed to have either rad moded. Note that the CRF 450 right rad is longer the left, to use a 250 rad you will need to move the rad mounts on the frame. I did and it worked out great.

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As for the air box, 5 inches away??? My stock 450 is fine in length, but there is no way it will fit over the 500 carb lip. My understanding is a 00 boot is 6 3/4 at the longest point, a 98-99 is 7 1/16. My gap measures roughly 7 1/4, so I am going with the 98-99 setup. Give me a week and I will let you know how it turns out. Also I thought 01 and after 250's had a new carb and it would not fit on the 500 carb????
hi did you get chance to sort your air boot out thank for telling me about the rads just got to find a good set

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 7:46 am
by ben
eyesky2002 wrote:Here is how I did my rads, my bike was missing them so I got mine from eBay. The left is a CRF450 rad and the right is a 01 CR250 rad. Only mod needed to the rads themselves was to turn the left bottom outlet up to meet the hose. Now had I got both 01 250 rads I would not have needed to have either rad moded. Note that the CRF 450 right rad is longer the left, to use a 250 rad you will need to move the rad mounts on the frame. I did and it worked out great.

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As for the air box, 5 inches away??? My stock 450 is fine in length, but there is no way it will fit over the 500 carb lip. My understanding is a 00 boot is 6 3/4 at the longest point, a 98-99 is 7 1/16. My gap measures roughly 7 1/4, so I am going with the 98-99 setup. Give me a week and I will let you know how it turns out. Also I thought 01 and after 250's had a new carb and it would not fit on the 500 carb????
are any other of the cr250 rads the same as the 01 rads i can get a set of 02 rads but will these work the same as the 01 with out modding them

Posted: June 29th, 2008, 12:13 pm
by eyesky2002
ben wrote: are any other of the cr250 rads the same as the 01 rads i can get a set of 02 rads but will these work the same as the 01 with out modding them
They will work, only difference is the left radiator has the bottom outlet coming of the corner of the tank rather then the backside face like my left; you could say a mirror of the right radiator minus the drop outlet to the water pump.

exhaust mount

Posted: July 2nd, 2008, 12:54 pm
by ben
started to make the exhaust mount iv used one of the 450 head mounts

here it is marked to be drilled out
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now drilled and cut
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here it is with the rubber mount and ready to be bolted on iv used one of the 450 spacers
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and heres how it looks bolted up
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Posted: July 5th, 2008, 9:08 am
by ben
head stay now done just needs welding
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Posted: July 5th, 2008, 12:20 pm
by dezertryno
Nice work. How do you do such nice work in a shop that looks like that? Do you get tired of walking around in a pile of alum shavings? Or searching for a tool that's "somewhere" on the bench? :shock:

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 12:29 pm
by teemtrubble
Is that a solid bar? How did you roll that?

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 1:05 pm
by ben
dezertryno wrote:Nice work. How do you do such nice work in a shop that looks like that? Do you get tired of walking around in a pile of alum shavings? Or searching for a tool that's "somewhere" on the bench? :shock:
i realy dont know how i find anythin in there i realy need to get the place clean

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 1:11 pm
by ben
teemtrubble wrote:Is that a solid bar? How did you roll that?
yes it is solid bar and belive it or not it started life as a caravan door handle
i found liying around in the back and it perfect for the job with a little cutting i have another one i will post a pic of it when i get chance

Posted: July 5th, 2008, 2:02 pm
by teemtrubble
Who would have thought a "Caravan" better known as the RV in the states. Kudo's I commend you on your ingenuity my friend!