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britincali wrote:OOOOO someone dissing the barnett clutch, I wonder who wrote this????






"What the Honda clutch gives up in durability is more than offest in feel and performance"

This is a paraphrase of the common reply to the OEM vs Aftermarket questions.

I feel if you replace the aluminum plates with steel, and keep it adjusted properly the Honda clutch delivers both life, feel, and performance.

If you really need the abuse protection, perhaps your gearing or riding style needs to be addressed.

For those who really trash the clutch, and theres just no way around it, then aftermarket is the way to go. But these clutches often put greater stress on the basket and gears though. Dont be surprized if something else fails. Honda 125's are famous for breaking these parts after an aftermarket clutch was installed. The stock clutch was supposed to slip slightly to cushion the rest of the parts.

Also, countless good plates, springs, etc get tossed at clutch time. If things remain flat, and the springs are good often just a set of friction discs will put you back in business.

The only Barnett clutch I ever had was on a Kawi H-2. It sucked. Grabby and hard pull. Same complaints I hear regarding other applications, including the CR







I searched google for "barnett carbon clutch cr500" and this was the first thing that popped up

The Higgie is busted , I believe Bob has out grown his cut and paste science and now only provides professional information on the grounds of his experience through logging 10 of thousands of seat hours on his trusty CR 5!

Slow old Fart wrote:[The Higgie is busted

How so?

This was my follow up..

Re: Barnett Clutch Info
Reply #7 - Feb 17th, 2004, 2:46pm
I rode a bike with the Barnett "Carbon" clutch in it recently. Very surprized in how smooth and stock it felt. Very easy clutch pull, wasnt grabby, smooooooooth is the best way to describe it.

Perhaps the aftermarket has caught up with the factory as far as feel is concerned.

Dont know how expensive they are, but worth considering I suppose if they wear like iron...

I was shocked it was a Barnett product.......

Got the clutch in just now and I can't remember who but someone mentioned the EBC springs being junk and being the big issue with their clutches.


The EBC springs are definatly shorter than the barnett ones and just by feel are a higher lb-age (sp?)

EBC HD springs barnett behind and a stocker behind far left



Barnett CR500 HD springs behind



As usual I got screwed out of one CR500 spring in the packet so I substituted one of the supplied cr250 ones.


Barnett carbon left EBC right



Basket dont look bad

I replaced mine with a fleabay bargain heavy duty clutch, looked awesome! Super stiff springs and steel plates I have less than 10 hrs on it and it is worn halfway through the fibers already!!! and making a horrible squealing noise when letting out the clutch. I guess you get what you pay for. however the steels still look fine and the springs are hella stiff so now I am thinkin about just getting the barnett fibers to put in. the fleabay clutch kit was about 60 bucks. the brand name is called Factory-Spec.com by RAIDER Dont know if you are familiar with it but it never slips and I cant emphasise enough how stiff the pull is!!!! I had to buy an easy pull just to use it. I think it is so stiff it is causing the cheap fibers to wear out quick. I will try it with the expensive ones and see what happens.

lot's of HP At the wrong time It got the basket,demolished the steel plates,same for $150.00 worth of fibers,$200.00 worth of inner and outer baskets. But that's why they call it racing.

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WOW! All I can say is ouch! So I guess a little slippage is cheaper than a complete fragmentation

Holy shit glen, thats about the best clutch destruction pic Ive seen!!!!!!!

So how's that Barnett holding up? I did a number on mine yesterday at the dunes, and I'm shopping for a replacement...





whoops!

yup, that clutch is fubar! HAHA, the barnets are the goods

I pulled the clutch a few weeks back for a looksie and after doing 20+ full throttle 2nd gear nitrous launches its good as can be, the only noticable thing was a little discoloration and bluing on the steels, the fibers look perfect tho.


It does however make the oil FILTHY I swap it after every dune trip and each time its black as hell, I cant tell if its burning the oil or its friction material, from having a close look at the clutch I dont think its all friction material.

I will NEVER run another clutch in any of my bikes, the barnett carbon dirt digger is the only way to roll

Blusmbl wrote:So how's that Barnett holding up? I did a number on mine yesterday at the dunes, and I'm shopping for a replacement...





whoops!

problem is when you tear up the clutch that bad, all that shit is now getting ground up in the bearings....not good

Alright, looks like I'm ordering a Barnett for it tonight!

I was at the top of a hill in 3rd gear with nowhere near enough speed, I popped the clutch a couple times to get it back on the pipe. On the 2nd try I heard a weird noise, about 3/4" of slack showed up in the cable and it wouldn't disengage anymore. I haven't started it since, besides making sure it kicks over freely. A bunch of aluminum came out when I drained the oil, and there's a ton in the basket, but I'm hoping there isn't too much in the trans bearings since it let go all at once and I shut it off right away.

Nick
"breaking shit in spectacular fashion since 1980"

britincali wrote:I will NEVER run another clutch in any of my bikes, the barnett carbon dirt digger is the only way to roll

Told-ya' Brit.

It has a good feel to it too.... and yes, the oil will turn black pretty quick.

Brit this might be a good option for you...


This work is done by Surf 'N Turf Racing to prevent your clutch from cooking. I just had them do mine last month. It's only $50 for the hub and basket. I didn't take pictures of mine when I got it back so I just posted this off their website. Work was excellent and fast...like overnight fast.

I'm also running Hinson's akadized plates. But my motor is just a nats ass hair from stock so I can't tell you the plates or modded clutch are a night and day improvement. I can tell you in six oil changes I haven't seen signs of aluminum plate wear like the originals. And the clutch feel and performance is noticeably improved. However I'd expect that from even a fresh OEM set as well...Anyways, clutches are expensive. STR can help your clutch withstand some abuse. Who knows? May be the best $50 you ever spent.

The carbon clutch has segmented blocks for the friction material.

Lots of oil flows between them, same idea as drilling all those holes...

Hinson basket, and barnet clutch's fer me. good chit.. unless your in first gear.. just drop a damn gear and hit the pipe.. its more fun that way and you dont waste clutch's

AlisoBob wrote:Keep reading dickhead.....

I go on to say that the Barnett Carbon is the only Barnett clutch I have used that has the OEM feel.

Dave Cook and I got them at the same time, like 4 years ago, and we still have them.

I hope your new clutch fry's too ....

I got my 500 in 2003. It had a Barnett in it....and it still has the same one 5 yrs later. I dont know when the previous owner installed it but I have to admit Ive abused the crap out of it and it still rocks !!!!

Who did I write to?

hahahaha sounds like you! hahahahaha!!!!!

teemtrubble wrote:hahahaha sounds like you! hahahahaha!!!!!

AlisoBob wrote:The carbon clutch has segmented blocks for the friction material.

Lots of oil flows between them, same idea as drilling all those holes...

As do most friction plates. Including OEM. The carbon based meterial is what really seperates them from a lot of others, not the segmented blocks. I guess when a clutch gets smoked using carbon friction plates it still isn't getting enough oil??

Not a problem I've experienced with my CR. But my KX ate clutch plates for lunch. Barnetts carbon plates were no different.