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Posted: January 27th, 2008, 1:12 am
by patgas
just after little info i hav a manual on cd so taking it to the pub would be a bit awkward ,if you havnt got anything constructive to say like the other members ,piss off.

Posted: January 27th, 2008, 5:28 am
by Blusmbl
Those are compression reliefs/releases, to help the engine kick over easier.

Posted: January 27th, 2008, 7:57 am
by AlisoBob
patgas wrote:just after little info i hav a manual on cd so taking it to the pub would be a bit awkward
Not in a lap top

:roll:

Read the manual ,it has a wealth of information.

Posted: January 27th, 2008, 8:08 am
by patgas
thanks guys hav been reading manuall,couldnt find anything about those indentations and noticed some bores didnt hav them thanks again.

Posted: January 27th, 2008, 8:24 am
by AlisoBob
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-94- ... 18Q2el1247


$14 buys you a REAL service manual...with every spec, torque value, and description you could ever want, including for those pesky decompression scallops...

:wink:

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 4:46 am
by patgas
i know i brought a haynes one wich is useless,and hav downloaded one of this site ,just that some cylinders u see dont seem to hav those scallops,thanks again for input

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 7:08 am
by dannygraves
the scallops started later, I think it was '89-'90 when they started adding those. the '80s bikes took a real man to start! :D they didn't have scallops and the pre '87 ones even had higher compression too. A lot of guys choose to bore to 1mm over to get rid of the scallops on the newer ones since they are power robbing :roll:
Honestly, from riding a modded '86 motor running really high compression with a 250 kicker on it, I would love one of those newer motors with the scallops, it really sucks when I have to start my bike on the side of a hill.
:D

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 8:25 am
by patgas
thanks for that bit of info ,i will keep you posted on the rebuild and try and get some pics up

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 8:36 am
by AlisoBob
dannygraves wrote: I would love one of those newer motors with the scallops, it really sucks when I have to start my bike on the side of a hill.
:D
Your pretty handy Danny, just recut them..I did...

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I rode Sabres bike this weekend. GSS rebuilt, no scallops, short kicker, hurt knee from a get off earlier in the day.. I couldnt start that mutha' with a 9 against my head...

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 8:40 am
by britincali
I kicked sabers 4 times and ended up limping away with my tail between my legs.........

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 8:44 am
by AlisoBob
And you OWN a GSS motor...

:wink:

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 8:50 am
by britincali
AlisoBob wrote:And you OWN a GSS motor...

:wink:


I have scallops and a newer style kicker tho :D :D :D :D

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 9:06 am
by sabreguy
WIMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 9:22 am
by dannygraves
hey, ALL you guys can TRY to start mine next time I'm out. The only person other than myself who can start it is James Lewis (tough kid!)
MFDB can't start it and neither can anyone else who has tried :wink: :wink: Its all about technique! :wink:

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 9:38 am
by Exnav
dannygraves wrote:hey, ALL you guys can TRY to start mine next time I'm out. The only person other than myself who can start it is James Lewis (tough kid!)
MFDB can't start it and neither can anyone else who has tried :wink: :wink: Its all about technique! :wink:
Does your technique resemble starting in a semi sitting position, getting the kicker to the very top of its' range, then sorta going into a jumping upright position and getting a very full kick? This was the technique I used on the 85' and it seems to work on the "new" bike too. I'm built kinda square though...5'10" and 215-220. :lol:

I've never seen myself doing it, but it can't look very graceful.

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 9:42 am
by dannygraves
yup, I even get my left leg off the ground because I put everything into that kick. the trick is to use your leg muscles the most while throwing your weight down to back it up. there would be no way to start my bike standing on one leg while standing the whole time.

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 9:43 am
by dannygraves
mojo has a video of me doing it :D I stalled a lot on the AZ ride. Only my bike has higher compression and a shorter kicker now.

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 12:36 pm
by ISBB
Sounds exactly like the way i start mine... get that bitch all the way up and jump and let my 285lbs muscle that bastard thru 2 strokes and pray it lights.. :P

Sabres wasnt bad however it kicked my ass the first couple kicks.. then i got it fired for bob :P Those short straight kickers SUCK!!!

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 2:10 pm
by sabreguy
I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about I have no probs starting my bike. Hell I started it right up even after my "seth enslow" sitting on the side of the hill. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 2:32 pm
by AlisoBob
You Da' Man Rich, thats all I gotta' say!

Posted: January 28th, 2008, 2:42 pm
by britincali
AlisoBob wrote:You Da' Man Rich, thats all I gotta' say!

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Thats one bitch of a bike to start :shock: :shock:

When I watched you kicking it in the morning I thought "Kick it properly you big woos" That was until I tried........

Posted: February 2nd, 2008, 8:08 pm
by NA CR500AF
if your going to the last bore you should get your barrel nickaciled, and get the crank rebalanced

cr 89

Posted: February 3rd, 2008, 12:17 am
by patgas
yep thats the plan new rod and big end bearings and re balanced crank,and check all other bearings while apart ,replace main bearings ,its been bored out but not sure how mutch.someone has scribed 79x89 on case ?,shes looking pretty sweet engines on bench,frame powdercoated in honda red,swingarm on all bearings replaced arm polished,just waiting for rear shock to go to be rebuilt.yokes back on cleaned and top yoke painted black as thorpes 89 winning bike should look the dogs b---ocks when done,will try and post some pics not sure how.

Posted: February 3rd, 2008, 8:05 am
by AlisoBob
You can say "Bollocks " here..no worries ...

Sounds like a good plan.