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Posted: September 18th, 2011, 10:15 am
by Kuma
gregrobo wrote:
ChumlyRocksa540 wrote:It's not hard if you make your measurements perfect then it's just welding
shit that easy
Post some pictures of the pipes you have built :wink:

Posted: September 18th, 2011, 10:48 am
by 100hp honda
welding would be the easy part of the whole job. alot of discussion on other sites if a computer program can make the perfect pipe. some say yes and others say its just a tool to help

Posted: September 18th, 2011, 5:51 pm
by Kuma
There's a few pipe building programs out there, even free, one from IWT racing, you need to be able to provide the program alot of info, then if you get that part right you need to make the cones, there are also free prorams for that, still a major undertaking. people spend a lot of time building pipes that should work then making revisions and tweeks, I may attempt it some time but I don't know when I'll get that sort of time to screw with it, would need a dyno along with other data acquisition systems to really tell if you were making head way. kinda off topic here :roll:
original topic was home porting, I say go for it, just take it easy, smooth out casting transitions and imperfections, Here is some info from Eric Gore, on the cylinder:
"The hook angles of the rear transfer ports should be filled with epoxy so the transfers are aimed at each other instead of towards the exhaust port. the narrower the port, the sooner the smoother the low end power. The minimum chordal width of each rear transfer port is 10mm. Raise the exhaust port 1.5mm and widen the two ports 4mm on each outer edge. The steel sleeve should be matched to the aluminum casting because it is very rough from the original manufacturing process. Polish the port edges with fine grit sanding paper. that will improve piston and ring life."

Let us know if you do any of this and how it comes out, I have not been able to find this info on Eric's site lately, I think he no longer is interested in giving away his secrets.

Posted: September 18th, 2011, 6:17 pm
by 100hp honda
not sure why chumly mentioned the pipe bullshit. acts like its simple as making loaf of bread :roll: :roll: . i guess everything is easy when your breathing sea foam fumes all day

Posted: September 18th, 2011, 7:58 pm
by 100hp honda
best way a first timer could learn is buy a $100 bike off craiglist and grind on that jug

Posted: September 21st, 2011, 5:54 pm
by dannygraves
I had an '87 cr250 ignition on an '86 motor and it was insane. the newer ones are much tamer.
The day after I added the cdi I took the bike out to armagosa and looped it out while launching up the hill. There are pics aomehere of me riding the rest of the day with no rear fender :lol:

Posted: September 21st, 2011, 5:58 pm
by dannygraves
the 86-88 cr250 cdi used the same flywheel and stator as the '86 cr500. If you bike is not an '86, to get the same year range you'll need the flywheel and stator as well as the cdi.

Posted: September 21st, 2011, 7:11 pm
by gregrobo
so many benifets to digital 250 ignition easier starting, less vibration, less flywheel inertia

Posted: September 22nd, 2011, 8:12 pm
by ChumlyRocksa540
100hp honda wrote:not sure why chumly mentioned the pipe bullshit. acts like its simple as making loaf of bread :roll: :roll: . i guess everything is easy when your breathing sea foam fumes all day
I havent done a pipe by myself but iv helped build one and I don't think it's the easiest thing to do but if he wants a 1000 more rpm on top it would be the safest (it won't screw up the jug permintly) way to do it no one really makes a rev pipe for a cr500 from the way I understand it the expansion chamber work simlar to a cam in the aspect of controlling the where and way power comes on so radical pipe:radical cam

Posted: September 23rd, 2011, 3:13 pm
by jbsleddin
ChumlyRocksa540 wrote:It's not hard if you make your measurements perfect then it's just welding
So how much are you charging for your kitchen table pipes? :lol: I've had trouble in the past, trying to exhaust gases at the table, maybe your pipe will help "de-tune" others around me? :lmao:

Posted: September 23rd, 2011, 3:27 pm
by Tharrell
jbsleddin wrote:
ChumlyRocksa540 wrote:It's not hard if you make your measurements perfect then it's just welding
So how much are you charging for your kitchen table pipes? :lol: I've had trouble in the past, trying to exhaust gases at the table, maybe your pipe will help "de-tune" others around me? :lmao:
That's some funny shit right there! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: September 23rd, 2011, 8:54 pm
by Gmbond
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you said "no one makes a rev pipe". Isn't that what a CPI or a DEP pipe does,??

Posted: September 24th, 2011, 8:11 pm
by ChumlyRocksa540
Gmbond wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but you said "no one makes a rev pipe". Isn't that what a CPI or a DEP pipe does,??
Those are not as radical as you can build and after a little searching I found a few guys that are willin to sell the measurements that worked for them as long as it was just a pipe for your bike and not to sell

Posted: September 24th, 2011, 8:35 pm
by 2strokeforever
from what i heard chumleys 540 was tuned so badly that a xr200 would outrun it....
i wouldnt take advise from that kind of character

Posted: September 24th, 2011, 10:03 pm
by 100hp honda
chumly should hang up his boots and part out that bike. i got first dibs on the cylinder :lol:

Posted: September 25th, 2011, 7:15 pm
by 2strokeforever
wheres the pic of that lt250 cylinder.... you know the one :lol:

Posted: September 25th, 2011, 8:27 pm
by NightBiker07
2strokeforever wrote:wheres the pic of that lt250 cylinder.... you know the one :lol:
I thought that was an LT500 cylinder?

Posted: September 26th, 2011, 8:32 am
by AlisoBob
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Posted: September 26th, 2011, 12:50 pm
by Kuma
That's awesome, are the blue areas where more material needs to be removed :lol:

Posted: September 27th, 2011, 7:21 am
by hoofarted
That pic makes me cringe every time I see it.

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Posted: September 27th, 2011, 12:16 pm
by Kuma
AlisoBob wrote:ImageThat pic makes me cringe every time I see it.
:devious: :lmao:

Posted: September 27th, 2011, 12:25 pm
by hoofarted
oh no!


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