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				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:09 pm
				by Flatbiller
				Boys boys boys! Let's get back on track here! I got buttfuc*ed with no grease here.  So I pm pstoffer we will see if he can salvage my frame. I hope he can!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:12 pm
				by maddog1927
				here is a post about a billet wye I bought
http://cr500riders.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1294612191
also study AF's gen 3 125 build
 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:15 pm
				by AlisoBob
				 
That looks pretty unusable to me, but what do I know?  I've only built Gen 1's, Gen 3's, and Gen 4's.
You better ask Clyde.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:18 pm
				by AlisoBob
				Flatbiller wrote: I hope he can!
No way....
 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:19 pm
				by Flatbiller
				I can't view it I'm not a member
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:21 pm
				by Flatbiller
				When I say I hope he can I mean the y, the cradle can get new rails I'm ok with that, I just don't wanna loose 
the frame it self,
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:21 pm
				by AlisoBob
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:26 pm
				by Flatbiller
				AlisoBob wrote:

 
Looks good, but I honestly don't know anything. That's why I had some one build my bike, aparently he had no idea either. What's the y cost
 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:30 pm
				by maddog1927
				now that I reread I see you ar probably talking about a 250 frame.
I really like the "algava" method for those, but a little late to do that.
If I rode MX I might be concerned with your frame.  I never get very far off the ground, so I would run it and keep an eye on it.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:33 pm
				by mr2ace
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:33 pm
				by maddog1927
				bought the wye on ebay over a year ago.  Paid somewhere between 200 and 300.  I have the guys e-mail, I will see if he has more and what he wants for them.  
I do know he does not know how well the fit the 250 frames, because I asked
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 8:37 pm
				by Flatbiller
				I ride desert and every once in a while I will huck it at a mx track. I'm in the 300 club as far as my weight goes. Im not jumping huge but jumping
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 29th, 2011, 10:43 pm
				by Flatbiller
				I shot Stoffer and solid a pm. Let's see what they say
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 7:24 am
				by 100hp honda
				hey flatbiller, heres the bottom line. i told you what some of the options were. you do not need a new frame. if you want a new frame, thats your decision. if someone has sent you a pm saying its critical you buy a new frame, whether it be one from ebay or stouffers, there blowing smoke up your ass.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 7:31 am
				by 100hp honda
				AlisoBob wrote:
That looks pretty unusable to me, but what do I know?  I've only built Gen 1's, Gen 3's, and Gen 4's.
You better ask Clyde.
bob youve never tig'd a fuckin thing in your life, and neither have i. dont make it sound like your a master builder of anything. for christ sake youve never even taken apart a bottom end  

. what you did was cut the frame and took it to somebody for rewelding.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 8:33 am
				by AlisoBob
				There ya go again, runnin' your mouth....
I've Tig'd, Mig', Arc'd, Plasma'd, Oxy'/ Acctl'd, Braze'd, Spot'd, just about everything....  with steel. 
I've built 2 stroke / 4 stroke  bike motors
Gas / Diesel Automotive motors
I've even rebuilt a Lycoming IO/ 360. Your too dumb to even know what that is.
I've never driven a snow plow for 10 hours a day, and come home with  $150 in my pocket though...
Whats that like?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 10:29 am
				by 100hp honda
				how much stoffers asking for already modded frames ?
how much solid bro charge to make new cradle and Y ?
lets see some numbers  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 10:30 am
				by Flatbiller
				WOW!
Anyways if a pm is in the sent box obviously it was sent. But if a pm is in the outbox does that mean it's pending? I'm a fuc*n tard.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 10:31 am
				by Flatbiller
				100hp honda wrote:how much stoffers asking for already modded frames ?
how much solid bro charge to make new cradle and Y ?
lets see some numbers  

 
I dunno. I don't know if they got my pm's?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 11:07 am
				by Flatbiller
				So I didn't sleep all to well last night, thinking about my shitbox in the garage, I got to thinking about the y.... I hack off the cradle and motor mounts and go all new tube, and for the y, I would like to get billet y but if that doesn't happen, what about putting a plate on the front and back of the y and putting a gusset on either side where the y was hogged out.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 11:36 am
				by scooter5002
				Well Flatbiller, all is not lost. At least you didn't buy an MPS frame! Like me. Having said that, I didn't lose a moments sleep over that. Shrugged my shoulders after rippin that clown a new one, and found this site. What you have can be fixed. On another note, Bob and 100hp, keep that shit comin'. This is gettin goooooooood! ( Sorry I had to )  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 11:37 am
				by Gmbond
				If you are going to do new cradle tubes and are wanting a new Y you should buy a "junk" gen4 crf250f frame off eBay for cheap and get the seller to cut the Y out and ship it only to you (see if they'll ship it and cut it cheap!). Then use the cast Y for factory coolness. See bobs gen4 build to see what this would look like
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 11:43 am
				by pstoffers
				I get $1500 to do a Gen3. This includes frame, radiator modifications, all oem bolts for front mount and head stay and a coil mount that will accept all 500/250 coils. There are people that will do it cheaper then me. I do not cut the frame just the inside of the Y out. I think the spliced frames look like shit. Will most of them be ok? Yes, Will some frames crack? Yes for lots of reasons.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 12:06 pm
				by 100hp honda
				the point i tried to make all the way back in the beggining is: flatbiller dont need a new frame. if he wants to buy one then so be it but his is fine and useable.
heres one scenario 
1- buy some 1x1 cradle tube. maybe someone has short lengths they will sell, if not then buy 20' minimum order from online, its $75. take half and sell the other half to get half your money back.
2- buy some motor mounts from somebody here
3- send frame, tube and mounts to solid bro. he can make the Y and weld everything together.............. DONE
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: January 30th, 2011, 12:32 pm
				by AlisoBob
				I think all this crap could have been avoided if F/B would have posted up his build first, and described his intentions before hacking everything up....
You have several ways to go...  I like the idea of harvesting the cast Gen 4 250F "Y", and getting new cradle tubes.