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powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 29th, 2009, 1:24 pm

Ok as far as dynos go which I have very little experiance, I have seen dyno runs with bikes and they are verry hard to do accuratly because even if you have a road bike tire on they tend to slip. I Know packerd has a dyno 100hp. I myself just want to beat the other guy up sand mountain UT. I dont care what the dyno says I just want it to rule.

thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » December 29th, 2009, 1:46 pm

well i really wanna see the gains/losses over a fmf vs pc vs std
with 250 / 500 ignitions.

the seat of your pants feel is very misleading. more so than a dyno graph.
if we can get a fixed price/ball park figure then we know how short of funds we are.we got three that are prepared to chip in already,anyothers?

bob?
brit?
danny?
lewisclan?
casey?
ridered?
ported/polished?
r1yfz?
pstoffers?

kdizzle · Post by **kdizzle** » December 29th, 2009, 2:05 pm

put your money where you mouth is gents. lets end this debate once and for all..

"BANNED HOON DYNO DAY 2010"

lets pick a bike and bolt on a shitload of parts, dyno each part on the same day same bike same dyno. the info to the community will be great, and make a few thumper lovers cry.

I havent been to the dyno in a while but im sure if we offered a tuner enough $$ we could rent the thing our for the day and have our way.

14 pages of BS lets get down to biz.

I will up my previous 100$ and will throw 250$ in the pot to start with.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » December 29th, 2009, 2:21 pm

MFDB used to work at "racers edge" here and could probably do dyno runs for free, or at minimal cost. his bike would porbably be the best candidate since it is almost stock, just a shaved head and pwk, but otherwise stock.
I have a pile of pipes, but no CPI or GSS to help with this debate. the other issue is the lack of an o-ring manifold, we wont have time to let the silicone set, so if someone has an o-ring manifold we could borrow, that could work.
BTW, its a dynojunk

kdizzle · Post by **kdizzle** » December 29th, 2009, 2:25 pm

i just happen to have an o ring manifold from "atomicdog" or whatever his name is. pos but it will work.

britincali · Post by **britincali** » December 29th, 2009, 2:35 pm

Im always up for a dyno day

thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » December 29th, 2009, 3:00 pm

jesus kdizzle, you are keen! im gonna up my offering too if we fall short, lets just see how many hoons come to the party first.

danny, when i seal my pipe to the manifold, i use the normal exhaust flange but i get rubber orings any put one on first. then you seal your pipe up with rtv glue,put 4 springs on(cross the bottom two over for more tension) and the springs pull the pipe tightly onto the rubber ring. this alone creates a good seal.
it leaks on start up but vibrates its self into position and no leaks.

for the purpose of this quick dyno, you could just use a one of these seals as it should do the trick adequatly.however i have never tried one of these seals alone without rtv but id be pretty confident it would work.

thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » December 29th, 2009, 3:09 pm

kdizzle wrote:i just happen to have an o ring manifold from "atomicdog" or whatever his name is. pos but it will work.

you got this post in before i could reply.
oring manifold will be sweet

just as long as we bring a spare o ring or two incase!

r1yfz · Post by **r1yfz** » December 29th, 2009, 3:36 pm

dannygraves wrote:MFDB used to work at "racers edge" here and could probably do dyno runs for free, or at minimal cost. his bike would porbably be the best candidate since it is almost stock, just a shaved head and pwk, but otherwise stock.
I have a pile of pipes, but no CPI or GSS to help with this debate. the other issue is the lack of an o-ring manifold, we wont have time to let the silicone set, so if someone has an o-ring manifold we could borrow, that could work.
BTW, its a dynojunk

I can prob. also get us hooked up with "racers edge of arizona" my builder does alot ALOT of work with those guys... He's actually the owners friend.

I bet i could get Daniel from outlawinnovations.com to do the dyno pulls and help with the pipe swaping, he is also a very good tuner and has full access to the RE dyno

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » December 29th, 2009, 3:49 pm

I have a pipe

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 29th, 2009, 4:55 pm

glen howell wrote:NO the exhaust is 210 with the bridge taken completly out

glen if you raise the exhaust to 200, the natural angle at which the sides rise outwards puts the top of the exhaust at virtually 100% of the bore width, without that bridge those rings we be fukked the first time you tried to kick start it.

the head clearence is 40 there is 4 more ports than the race

4 more ports ? im not understanding why or where you would put these ports.

I weld up the transfers and open them up to 180

this makes no sense at all. glen do you understand how much 180* is ?

then I have a pipe that is so big it just barley misses the front wheel with the first defuser and it has a 10 ' diameter center chamber with a 18 '' 1' stinger going into the muffler that I make for the big pipe

1" seems small. fmf is 1-1/8" if i recall correct. i believe 500cc drag pipes are 1-1/4"

I will take some pictures later .glen

sweet

thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » December 29th, 2009, 5:01 pm

HES BEEN DOIN IT FOR 30 YEARS MAN. LET HIM GO.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 29th, 2009, 5:06 pm

oh sorry

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » December 29th, 2009, 5:07 pm

when you remove the bridge, you oval it out, so at over 200* it would be pretty narrow at top. I know that 2 of the ports would be boost ports drilled at the intake, not really sure where the other 2 would go.

thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » December 29th, 2009, 5:08 pm

but your right, photos would be sweeeeeet!

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 29th, 2009, 5:10 pm

danny i understand the 2 ports that he drills but he said he puts in 4 more for a total of 6. where ? why ?

thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » December 29th, 2009, 5:17 pm

after all, when you chamfer back the bridge, you are effectively removing it from contact with the rings....kinda.

i think i saw one of glens port jobs with the bridge removed and polished to a mirror.looked real nice!

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 29th, 2009, 5:22 pm

thestuz wrote:after all, when you chamfer back the bridge, you are effectively removing it from contact with the rings....kinda.

the bridge is chamfered back because at operating temp it swells out to normal size. the rings then do contact it and use it for support as to not snag the port roof.

pstoffers · Post by **pstoffers** » December 29th, 2009, 5:28 pm

http://modesto.craigslist.org/mcy/1528616922.html

caseyracing222 · Post by **caseyracing222** » December 29th, 2009, 5:45 pm

pstoffers wrote:http://modesto.craigslist.org/mcy/1528616922.html

glen howell · Post by **glen howell** » December 29th, 2009, 6:14 pm

Sorry ,I mistated on drag engine only 2 more than race engine total of 4 only,on the 210 it gets into water jackets we weld up and remachine and polish.Sorry for the pictures being fuzzy my camera is not working it's best .I just guess I'm just a sorry fuzzy guy.Glen
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thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » December 29th, 2009, 6:15 pm

shit, 65 per hour? looks like weve found a winner! he might even do discount if we get a few hours,says he "does events".shit, thats not even $200 for 3 hours lol.
looks like "BANNED HOON DYNOTUNE 2010" is underway lol

is it local for you guys?

thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » December 29th, 2009, 6:25 pm

100hp honda wrote:
thestuz wrote:after all, when you chamfer back the bridge, you are effectively removing it from contact with the rings....kinda.
the bridge is chamfered back because at operating temp it swells out to normal size. the rings then do contact it and use it for support as to not snag the port roof.

look at thin factory honda job. it looks like the bridge is grinded back so the rings wont even touch it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/ ... C01051.jpg

thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » December 29th, 2009, 6:27 pm

ps, nice looking pipe glen

britincali · Post by **britincali** » December 29th, 2009, 7:14 pm

thestuz wrote:ps, nice looking pipe glen

Fuk yea

BannedCR500Riders.com

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