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Posted: December 19th, 2008, 1:11 pm
by teemtrubble
There is no "standard model" as you put it.
There are so many options...
It makes it impossible to say because of options in chassis's, new or rebuilt motors, who supplies the donors and the combinations are endless... is that hard to understand?
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 1:20 pm
by 90cr500guy
It is hard to understand why custom only builds are constantly compared to production bikes.
I thought maybe you offered a production standard model
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 1:30 pm
by teemtrubble
hence the name "teem trubble works CR500"
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 2:04 pm
by JBaze
90cr500guy wrote:It is hard to understand why custom only builds are constantly compared to production bikes.
I thought maybe you offered a production standard model
Not to prolong this or what ever, but the bikes that SH builds are not production bikes. If they are when did Honda Motor Co. begin offering aluminum frames for the CR500 engine for sale? The SH bikes are infact custom bikes, they take an alum. framed 4 stroke and re-engineer the frame to accept the CR500 engine, the same thing everyone else does. Those are not production models, if they were they would be for sale in all the Honda shops.
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 2:10 pm
by 90cr500guy
any one design produced in #'s can be considered a production unit.
In this case the SH500AF is a production bike, produced by SH.
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 2:14 pm
by teemtrubble
Steve turn your fucking computer off dude and go cut the lawn

Posted: December 19th, 2008, 2:14 pm
by JBaze
90cr500guy wrote:any one design produced in #'s can be considered a production unit.
In this case the SH500AF is a production bike, produced by SH.
I disagree. Simply because I feel to qualify as a production unit, each one should be built identical. And they are not.
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 2:15 pm
by teemtrubble
teemtrubble wrote:Steve turn your fucking computer off dude and go cut the lawn


Posted: December 19th, 2008, 2:52 pm
by lewisclan
teemtrubble wrote:teemtrubble wrote:Steve turn your fucking computer off dude and go cut the lawn


mine is still coverd in snow
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:02 pm
by 90cr500guy
JBaze wrote:90cr500guy wrote:any one design produced in #'s can be considered a production unit.
In this case the SH500AF is a production bike, produced by SH.
I disagree. Simply because I feel to qualify as a production unit, each one should be built identical. And they are not.
Thats like saying a car manufacture cant have any variations in fitment of doors and hoods. All new cas of the same model are goint to be slightly different. Some will make a little more HP, some will get slightly better mileage, some will ride better than others.
Just my opinion, but I think others will feel that the Service Honda bike is a production unit. Not 1 off customs
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:21 pm
by MICK
90cr500guy wrote:Just my opinion, but I think others will feel that the Service Honda bike is a production unit. Not 1 off customs
What are you saying??? My bike really wasn't produced by Honda

I would have never guessed...
And why in the fuck are the same dudes still complaining about this shit? I like my SH, and given my experience with them so far and the enjoyment I've had with the bike I may be inclined to purchase another. If you don't like the welds take your fucking money some place else. Atleast we HAVE options in this small ass market of 500AFs. If you're a guy that just couldn't possibly enjoy a SH or absolutely need a stronger platform for all that hardcore single track riding you do, you know who to call. End of discussion...
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:21 pm
by JBaze
90cr500guy wrote:JBaze wrote:90cr500guy wrote:any one design produced in #'s can be considered a production unit.
In this case the SH500AF is a production bike, produced by SH.
I disagree. Simply because I feel to qualify as a production unit, each one should be built identical. And they are not.
Thats like saying a car manufacture cant have any variations in fitment of doors and hoods. All new cas of the same model are goint to be slightly different. Some will make a little more HP, some will get slightly better mileage, some will ride better than others.
Just my opinion, but I think others will feel that the Service Honda bike is a production unit. Not 1 off customs
Thats coming from the manufactuer. SH is not a manufacturer. If they were, the bikes would not be called Honda, because Honda IS a manufacturer. So they are in point of fact producing 1 off customs as is TTM and everyone else who builds and sells converted aluminum framed CR500's.
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:23 pm
by JBaze
MICK wrote:90cr500guy wrote:Just my opinion, but I think others will feel that the Service Honda bike is a production unit. Not 1 off customs
What are you saying??? My bike really wasn't produced by Honda

I would have never guessed...
And why in the fuck are the same dudes still complaining about this shit? I like my SH, and given my experience with them so far and the enjoyment I've had with the bike I may be inclined to purchase another. If you don't like the welds take your fucking money some place else. Atleast we HAVE options in this small ass market of 500AFs. If you're a guy that just couldn't possibly enjoy a SH or absolutely need a stronger platform for all that hardcore single track riding you do, you know who to call. End of discussion...
Very well put Mick. SOS!

Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:26 pm
by JBaze
Also, I am not complaining like I said I built my own bike. As hard on a bike as I am, I would be hard pressed to spend that much on one because I would kill it within a year or 2.

Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:27 pm
by 90cr500guy
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:32 pm
by TYSTYX
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:34 pm
by JBaze
Some of the top and upcoming motorcycle manufactures insist on staking claim to adding a new production custom motorcycle to their line. This is simply a false claim in advertising and no more than a gimmick of play on words.
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Isn't that what I have said?

Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:40 pm
by 90cr500guy
cutting the lawn as this point, would require to remove the dozer blade from the garden tractor and putting the deck back on. Well we have more rain coming. That means more road work ahead.
I was smart and mowed before the rain.

Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:43 pm
by teemtrubble
90cr500guy wrote:cutting the lawn as this point, would require to remove the dozer blade from the garden tractor and putting the deck back on. Well we have more rain coming. That means more road work ahead.
I was smart and mowed before the rain.

Then go do some road work fuck!!!!
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:45 pm
by 90cr500guy
but its going to rain again

Posted: December 19th, 2008, 3:56 pm
by teemtrubble
Steve let me know when you want to go to Amago
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 4:21 pm
by kkvslayer
just thought I'd throw something at this

,SH lists there base model which you could call they're "production" model for $8999.00 but obviously there is variances with everyone of them
"The 500AF is available with numerous options including cylinder porting, suspension and many others. We can CUSTOM build the bike to fit your specific needs, all with the quality you expect from Service Honda. The price of this very special motorcycle is only $8999. "
I'm sure the price will drastically increase as you add the hop-ups
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 4:25 pm
by AlisoBob
kkvslayer wrote: We can CUSTOM build the bike to fit your specific needs, all with the quality you expect from Service Honda. The price of this very special motorcycle is only $8999. "
They will not build you a CUSTOM bike, I know, because I asked...
They do have a list of parts you can request... but not 100% custom.
Posted: December 19th, 2008, 4:44 pm
by teamdns
another piece taken from Service Honda's page:
..................Dirt Rider was impressed after just looking at their 500AF (February 2002) describing the 500AF as having “museum like quality.”
here's “museum like quality.” for you!!!!
it flew OUT THE DOOR!!!!

Posted: December 19th, 2008, 5:05 pm
by AlisoBob
teamdns wrote:another piece taken from Service Honda's page:
..................Dirt Rider was impressed after just looking at their 500AF (February 2002) describing the 500AF as having “museum like quality.”
Like I've said before... the older bikes were better. I've seen them.
Something has changed at S/H, and unfortunatly..... due to AJ dodging the question....we'll never know what it is.
Maybe AJ will offer the owner of this bike a 2009 frame to swap out, if the 2009's return to the former level of craftsmanship.