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Posted: March 29th, 2008, 5:41 pm
by Uncle Cracker
One time I got kicked in the vernier scale and it moved off my frame.

Posted: March 29th, 2008, 6:27 pm
by AlisoBob
"One time, at Band Camp...."

Posted: March 30th, 2008, 9:53 am
by Mad Dog
AlisoBob wrote:The number of teeth on the gear isnt divisible by the number of splines on the kicker shaft.

If you install the gear differently from wher it should be, the splines will "move" to place the kicker in a different position.

Kinda' like a vernier scale.
Got it. Thanks

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 11:30 am
by AlisoBob
Cracker's knee surgery is complete, says he's riding THIS WEEKEND!

Can I get a "AMEN BROTHER" .....

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 12:42 pm
by dannygraves
:D :cool:

Posted: June 11th, 2008, 1:24 pm
by teemtrubble
AlisoBob wrote:Cracker's knee surgery is complete, says he's riding THIS WEEKEND!

Can I get a "AMEN BROTHER" .....
Here! Here!

Posted: June 12th, 2008, 8:36 am
by lewisclan
Yes

Posted: June 12th, 2008, 10:49 am
by Steiner 311
See you this weekend!



Jas....................................................................................................

Posted: June 12th, 2008, 9:32 pm
by ZEROFEAR66
AlisoBob wrote:Image

Another view of " Zerofears" bike..

I think to be effective, the wing should overlap both the downtube, and the cradle tube... to tie it all together.

Hey thats nice....Man that guy built a sweet one....
:bling:

Posted: June 12th, 2008, 9:38 pm
by AlisoBob
ZEROFEAR66 wrote:Man that guy built a sweet one....
:bling:
It was a beautiful bike. This new one your doing, proly' even more so...

Posted: June 14th, 2008, 6:07 pm
by AlisoBob
Well, Cracker rode off in fine style on his Gen 3 A/F....

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Motor is a 90'... had a Weisco in it with a smeared bottom ring. ( Bridge non relieved, no lube holes... :evil: ) We Nigivered it with some sand paper and a file... good as new. Motor has tons of compression now.
PULLS HARD!

We did a little tuning on it, new chain, brake pads and bars... Ready for Steiners place tomorrow....

Congrats Joe!!!!

After it was all said and done, Joe figures $1850 went into it...... NICE!!!


**** DOES ANYONE HAVE AN 18" WHEEL FOR THIS BIKE? ****

Is a 2002 CR250R Let me know.... Thanks!!!!

Posted: June 14th, 2008, 6:23 pm
by MICK
That bike looks really well done. What I like best about it was choosing to use that '90 motor. I'd sell a kidney to see Cracker put a hurtin on a 450 with that "well seasoned" mill. Heres to your 18 yeas of R&D blasted right back in your face, BRAAAAP!

Again nice ride :cool:
Seems like a lot of us now, wish I would see more 500 riders around...

Posted: June 14th, 2008, 6:27 pm
by AlisoBob
Thanks Mick... It did take a while, but the finished product is a winner!!

Posted: June 14th, 2008, 7:00 pm
by Uncle Cracker
Big thanks to everyone on the site. I received help from allot of people on this one. Thanks to Mad Dog for the 02 CR, it was very clean. Thanks to Shan for all the info and parts. Danny for parts and info, and thanks to Bob for being my best friend and the best friend to the CR 500 community. I will give a first ride report after tomorrows ride.

Posted: June 14th, 2008, 8:32 pm
by sabreguy
:cool:

Posted: June 14th, 2008, 11:15 pm
by AlisoBob
Uncle Cracker wrote:....and thanks to Bob for being my best friend and the best friend to the CR 500 community.
:buddies:

Posted: June 15th, 2008, 9:31 pm
by AlisoBob
Cracker's bike did real well today.... about the only two issues were the carb...( real lean at idle, surging ... then instant rich at 1/8th throttle, chugging...) and 220 psi in the front tire.... Make handling a little spooky...

Other than that, no issues over 19.8 miles of messing around.

Vibes are nearly non-existant.....

:headbang:

Posted: June 15th, 2008, 10:30 pm
by iggys-amsoil
Nice job guys! :cool:

Q though, I see the kicker isn't riding the frame. Is that because the motor is moved down enough or did the kicker gear inside get off-set?

Posted: June 15th, 2008, 10:48 pm
by AlisoBob
Dont know Igg..... the motor wasnt opened up, and we reused the factory lower CR250 engine lugs.

The frame was tweeked a little, ala' the bottle jack method. This may have repositioned things.

The kicker fits sweet, no mods were needed...

:?: :?: :?:

Posted: June 16th, 2008, 8:37 am
by ShanMan
AlisoBob wrote:...Vibes are nearly non-existant.....
One or two piece headstay Bob?

Posted: June 16th, 2008, 8:38 am
by AlisoBob
UNO, one of yours....

But, everything was match drilled, shimmed, torqued, etc..etc..

The engine and chassis are monolithic...

Posted: June 16th, 2008, 10:37 am
by AJ
nice job!
it looks good for sure!




just some random on the kicker position in gen 3's,

as mentioned by others,,
you'll find that there are index marks on the rachet gear and on the shaft.
those should be aligned.
you can try other positions for clearence,

but odds are the best postion is goint to end up at the stock indexed marks.

the thing is- that if yoi udo a bunch of these ( i think ive built about 800 gen 3's?)
you will find honda CR500 kickers are not consistant in thier shape.
(yes they all look identicle)

try 5 brand new kickstarteers ..
on the same gen 3 bike /same shaft postion ,and you will likely have
at least 3 different arm locations were it gets close to the frame.

my guess is that while all molded the dame,, they are prhaps pulled from th mold differently, or cool at a different rate ,causeing the slight differences.
it "could" be in the broching of the knuckle itself..
but i have swamped out brand new knuckles , on the same earms,,
and had the same shaft /arm variences -
so at least i nthese cases it was in the arms themselves.


bottom line is-
some will clear by alot, others will tend to rub the frame,
and need clearenced in some form.
you can go thru a bin of 20 or 30 new kickers-
to get lucky with one that "fits perfect"(most will rub slightly)

I have claearenced them slightly, and never had the arm fail.
if i find onne that seems to need more clearencing than i' m comfortabe with,,it simply isnt used.

Good luck and i hope this tidbit helps for those that might run into this minor detail..

Posted: June 16th, 2008, 4:54 pm
by AlisoBob
AJ wrote:....bottom line is some will clear by alot, others will tend to rub the frame, and need clearenced in some form.
You can go thru a bin of 20 or 30 new kickers-
to get lucky with one that "fits perfect".
If this info came from "Farty", I never would have beleived it. Thanks for the good info AJ...

:wink:

Posted: June 16th, 2008, 5:06 pm
by Mad Dog
Dang, it sure looks nice. :cool:
What did you guys do with the rear pipe mount on the stock pipe.

Posted: June 16th, 2008, 5:11 pm
by AlisoBob
I dunno, looks like Joe cut it off, and repositioned it.