AR-15's

Exnav · Post by **Exnav** » October 14th, 2009, 2:37 pm

Looking into a purchase and anyone got any opinions, good or bad? Lots of companies making these, too many to choose from actually. Whatchu got?

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » October 14th, 2009, 2:43 pm

u should PM MFDB, I know for a fact he has atleast 1 and a friend of his is armed for WW3, he has probably fired every one they make.

eyesky2002 · Post by **eyesky2002** » October 14th, 2009, 2:52 pm

There are so many variants out there; some good and some not so good, but Colt, Bushmaster, Rock River, StagArms have always been good to me. The only ones I seen with real trouble were ones built from part kits, basically mismatched parts, so stick with getting a complete factory rifle. Oh yeah your bolt and bolt carrier are your friend, keep em clean!

Not my closet, but damn nice pic none the less!

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » October 14th, 2009, 3:01 pm

I've heard the same thing about kits. I guess each part is machined to a different spec, so it fits together poorly and ends up being either sloppy like a russian riffle or too tight to return the bolt properly everytime, then you have lots of jams.
a firend of mine in cali built a fab10 ar-15 which was a non removably magazine lower that loaded with clips from the top after removing the carrier pin. it was a peice of junk.

Bean · Post by **Bean** » October 14th, 2009, 4:49 pm

eyesky2002 wrote: Not my closet, but damn nice pic none the less!

you bastards in the U.S have all the good toys

CR500R7 · Post by **CR500R7** » October 14th, 2009, 7:59 pm

shaggy aus wrote:
eyesky2002 wrote: Not my closet, but damn nice pic none the less!

you bastards in the U.S have all the good toys

I second that shaggy aus.

You can buy an M-16 or an AK-47 here, they are illegal but if you know the right people you are able to obtain one, I was last quoted $1500 for one.

JBaze · Post by **JBaze** » October 15th, 2009, 2:43 pm

I had the bushmaster xm15e2s. Kick ass rifle never had any problems with it and peeled off 1000's of rounds.

LAYNFRM · Post by **LAYNFRM** » October 21st, 2009, 12:11 pm

i've put a couple thousand through my olympic arms. i haven't had a single problem yet whatsoever.

you're paying for the name when you buy a Colt btw.

Exnav · Post by **Exnav** » October 21st, 2009, 2:31 pm

I think I am going with a CMMG.
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?cart=1942945&cat=1&

arleybeer40 · Post by **arleybeer40** » October 21st, 2009, 2:59 pm

The only thing i've noticed lately with the a/r's is that the ones under a grand dont seem to work to good or for to long. Any of them worth a shit are around 1,200 bucks and up(new gun prices, with some better features than just a carry handle).

Chief Gunner · Post by **Chief Gunner** » October 21st, 2009, 4:56 pm

AR15's are fun and pretty good shooters at decent ranges with the right set up. Shortened and dialed in they are good for CQC but....

I like to think of them like a CR250 compared to a CR500...the AR/ M-16 variants might be lighter and easier to handle for most people but they just don't not have the hard hitting long range and severe impact capabilities like a lapua load in a 7.62.

The .30-06 won two world wars and it's necked down little brother has superior ballistic advantages over the NATO 5.56mm (.223 remington).

If I were you and had the money I'd look at what Springfield has to offer in one of these:

redrider · Post by **redrider** » October 21st, 2009, 6:36 pm

Chief Gunner wrote:AR15's are fun and pretty good shooters at decent ranges with the right set up. Shortened and dialed in they are good for CQC but....

I like to think of them like a CR250 compared to a CR500...the AR/ M-16 variants might be lighter and easier to handle for most people but they just don't not have the hard hitting long range and severe impact capabilities like a lapua load in a 7.62.

The .30-06 won two world wars and it's necked down little brother has superior ballistic advantages over the NATO 5.56mm (.223 remington).

Definitely agree about going with the battle rifle. The one you have pictured is chambered in 7.62 NATO though. I don't think they make 30-06 m1s anymore. The 7.62x51 nato (308) is the round to go with. if you want an ar platform, rock river arms makes a nice one in 308 (lar-8 ) There are several 308 guns that use the FAL mag and are all great:

Kel-tec RFB
FAL
L1A1
LAR-8

Other good battle rifles:

SCAR-H
CETME
PTR-91
Saiga 308

I'm all for making things as universal as possible and the m1 and saiga 308 can use the fal mag with a little bit of work.

If you're still after a 5.56:
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/plr16.htm

NightBiker07 · Post by **NightBiker07** » October 21st, 2009, 8:25 pm

CR500R7 wrote: AK-47 here, they are illegal but if you know the right people you are able to obtain one, I was last quoted $1500 for one.

and to think i bought mine for 400 lmao

JBaze · Post by **JBaze** » October 21st, 2009, 10:42 pm

Isn't that am M-14 he has pictured there?

CR500R7 · Post by **CR500R7** » October 21st, 2009, 11:06 pm

NightBiker07 wrote:
CR500R7 wrote: AK-47 here, they are illegal but if you know the right people you are able to obtain one, I was last quoted $1500 for one.
and to think i bought mine for 400 lmao

Is your AK-47 legal to own where you are and is it fully automatic?

hoofarted · Post by **hoofarted** » October 21st, 2009, 11:29 pm

Chief Gunner wrote:AR15's are fun and pretty good shooters at decent ranges with the right set up. Shortened and dialed in they are good for CQC but....

I like to think of them like a CR250 compared to a CR500...the AR/ M-16 variants might be lighter and easier to handle for most people but they just don't not have the hard hitting long range and severe impact capabilities like a lapua load in a 7.62.

The .30-06 won two world wars and it's necked down little brother has superior ballistic advantages over the NATO 5.56mm (.223 remington).

If I were you and had the money I'd look at what Springfield has to offer in one of these:

I have the synthetic version of the above - hands down, my favorite rifle to shoot. Besides, have you tried acquiring .223 ammo recently??

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » October 22nd, 2009, 7:18 am

I love that thing, its so comfy you can shoot it all day long.

Exnav · Post by **Exnav** » December 14th, 2009, 8:31 pm

Bought this today. Double Star is the manufacturer. Construction worker out of money and I offered $500.00. This will be an off the grid weapon. Thinking about building something from pieces too.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » December 15th, 2009, 9:08 am

especially the "off the grid" part

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » December 19th, 2009, 12:32 am

In the US you can own machine guns (transferable) legally with just a $200 tax stamp.

Springfield makes an M1A (M14) (.308) they are nice but very expensive compared to an AR and MUCH heavier. They still offer M1's in 30-06.

Watch out for Chinese parts, my sear malfunctioned causing my AR to run full auto from time to time, 10 years and $100,000 fine if you are caught.

I prefer capacity over caliber in a CQB/short range rifle. AR-15 is much more maneuverable and much lighter also has 30 rounds. M1A/M14 is much better for medium/long range precision but lacks capacity (20 rounds average) and is much less "agile"...

eyesky2002 · Post by **eyesky2002** » December 19th, 2009, 4:05 pm

M.F.D.B. wrote:In the US you can own machine guns (transferable) legally with just a $200 tax stamp.

The state has to allow Class 3 firearms first, not all do; then you can apply to the ATF and get a stamp for a pre 1986 full suto or 3 shot burst weapon (nothing newer) SBR 'Short barreled rifles" come in to play is your talking sub size as well. You can pay as much as 12K for a transferable 20+ year old M16 and $30+ for a squad weapon!

I for one would rather pitch out $1k and get a new quality AR15 clone and pic my shots!

arleybeer40 · Post by **arleybeer40** » December 20th, 2009, 6:30 pm

California has a 10 round cap on magazines.

. Last time i checked around the magazine had to be fixed or require a tool of somesorts to remove.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » December 20th, 2009, 7:09 pm

a cali friend of mine had a fab10 lower which was a fixed 10 round mag.

JBaze · Post by **JBaze** » December 20th, 2009, 7:37 pm

If you have your class 3, you could walk into a gun shop in Idaho and buy 3 shot burst conversions. I was going to put one on my Bushmaster but decided it wasn't worth it.

HrcRacing · Post by **HrcRacing** » December 20th, 2009, 9:38 pm

AK's are legal in the states, it just can't be full auto. My brother has owned a few and I'm thinking about getting one for my son and me. They're definitely dirt cheap here.

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