Ironman sprocket BOLTS REALLY REALLY suck!

Disturbed · Post by **Disturbed** » September 22nd, 2009, 5:01 pm

The hex head is about 3/16" deep and strips out very easily.

LAYNFRM · Post by **LAYNFRM** » September 22nd, 2009, 5:34 pm

use a open end wrench on the nut to loosen it, while just holding pressure on the allen head. that way has worked for me for years. at first i tried just using the allen head to loosen it, and i was stripping them constantly. now, i never strip them.

iggys-amsoil · Post by **iggys-amsoil** » September 22nd, 2009, 6:03 pm

And make sure you use the box end side too. Oh and good luck with that one or two spokes in the way.

Well, at least with the 19" 250 rim.

Disturbed · Post by **Disturbed** » September 22nd, 2009, 7:00 pm

[quote="LAYNFRM"]use a open end wrench on the nut to loosen it, while just holding pressure on the allen head. that way has worked for me for years. at first i tried just using the allen head to loosen it, and i was stripping them constantly. now, i never strip them.[/quote

I did/do. With the pre-locktite [d] bolts they were broken loose and backed out 1/8"+ but that's when 2 bolt heads stripped.

hoofarted · Post by **hoofarted** » September 22nd, 2009, 7:10 pm

LAYNFRM wrote:use a open end wrench on the nut to loosen it, while just holding pressure on the allen head. that way has worked for me for years. at first i tried just using the allen head to loosen it, and i was stripping them constantly. now, i never strip them.

X2!

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » September 23rd, 2009, 7:33 am

hoofarted wrote:
LAYNFRM wrote:use a open end wrench on the nut to loosen it, while just holding pressure on the allen head. that way has worked for me for years. at first i tried just using the allen head to loosen it, and i was stripping them constantly. now, i never strip them.
X2!

hummm go figure

Rosco-Peeko · Post by **Rosco-Peeko** » September 23rd, 2009, 5:16 pm

As long as you bust the nut side loose first....should not be an issue. Torque should be applied and broken on the nut side....ALWAYS.

Disturbed · Post by **Disturbed** » September 24th, 2009, 8:04 pm

Is it really that difficult to understand the bolt had been broken loose and the bolt was being used to continue to loosen it when 2 allen heads stripped?

Crap, that seems pretty simple to understand to me.

CR500R7 · Post by **CR500R7** » September 24th, 2009, 8:37 pm

It is just like it reads.

Reads simple to me.

Disturbed · Post by **Disturbed** » September 27th, 2009, 6:57 pm

Yeah, you guys are fucking perfect and so are Ironman sprocket bolts.

Post by **AlisoBob** » September 27th, 2009, 7:32 pm

Stop using chinese hex drivers....

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » September 27th, 2009, 9:07 pm

Disturbed wrote:Yeah, you guys are fucking perfect and so are Ironman sprocket bolts.

nice fucken attitude

like they all said on ALL BRANDS OF SPROCKET BOLTS, only use the allen side to hold it steady, apply all torque to the nut.

Disturbed · Post by **Disturbed** » September 28th, 2009, 7:38 am

How hard is to understand?:

I WAS

Funny, the T handle packaging reads "Made in USA".

Post by **AlisoBob** » September 28th, 2009, 9:17 am

caseyracing222 · September 28th, 2009, 11:26 am

I must side with Disturbed on this issue, I havent used iron man sproket bolts before, but I have used msr and they suck, the metal is very brittle and does strip very easily when installing them correctly, also they came loose after eveyride. The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.

ISBB · Post by **ISBB** » September 28th, 2009, 1:46 pm

i have used MSR bolts on the 500 and my 426.. just dont try and tighten loosen with the allen side and use a boxed end wrench on the nut side and your good.. never one problem with sprocket bolts for me. Now im gonna head to the garage to night just to check lol

Disturbed · Post by **Disturbed** » September 28th, 2009, 4:52 pm

caseyracing222 wrote:I must side with Disturbed on this issue, I havent used iron man sproket bolts before, but I have used msr and they suck, the metal is very brittle and does strip very easily when installing them correctly, also they came loose after eveyride. The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.

Clearly another hack doing it all wrong with improper tools. You just need to do it correctly like I know how to.

You need to just hold the allen side while applying torque to the nut side. If you do this properly every bolt made on the planet will spin loose with ease and never strip. I don't know why someone else hasn't pointed this out earlier on this thread.

Post by **AlisoBob** » September 28th, 2009, 4:54 pm

caseyracing222 wrote:The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.

Most everything....

caseyracing222 · Post by **caseyracing222** » September 28th, 2009, 5:17 pm

AlisoBob wrote:
caseyracing222 wrote:The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.
Most everything....

yup, I buy all oem honda parts because they are reasonably priced, but for yamaha I buy what I can afford the cranks are close to $400 and pistons are $200, I dont understand why Yamaha parts are so overpriced, usually honda parts are only a few more dollars than aftermarket

caseyracing222 · Post by **caseyracing222** » September 28th, 2009, 5:19 pm

Disturbed wrote:
caseyracing222 wrote:I must side with Disturbed on this issue, I havent used iron man sproket bolts before, but I have used msr and they suck, the metal is very brittle and does strip very easily when installing them correctly, also they came loose after eveyride. The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.
Clearly another hack doing it all wrong with improper tools. You just need to do it correctly like I know how to.

You need to just hold the allen side while applying torque to the nut side. If you do this properly every bolt made on the planet will spin loose with ease and never strip. I don't know why someone else hasn't pointed this out earlier on this thread.

Im no hack and I know how to install sprocket bolts, ive been wrenching on bikes for 13 years...

Disturbed · Post by **Disturbed** » September 28th, 2009, 5:45 pm

caseyracing222 wrote:
Disturbed wrote:
caseyracing222 wrote:I must side with Disturbed on this issue, I havent used iron man sproket bolts before, but I have used msr and they suck, the metal is very brittle and does strip very easily when installing them correctly, also they came loose after eveyride. The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.
Clearly another hack doing it all wrong with improper tools. You just need to do it correctly like I know how to.

You need to just hold the allen side while applying torque to the nut side. If you do this properly every bolt made on the planet will spin loose with ease and never strip. I don't know why someone else hasn't pointed this out earlier on this thread.

Im no hack and I know how to install sprocket bolts, ive been wrenching on bikes for 13 years...

And after my almost 40 years of fooling with bikes it's not impossible to see way I got a wee bit cranky with the redundant posts.

caseyracing222 · Post by **caseyracing222** » September 28th, 2009, 5:57 pm

There was no need to get snappy at someone who was on your side

Disturbed · Post by **Disturbed** » September 28th, 2009, 7:01 pm

Sorry you didn't get it....you weren't the brunt of it.

Sarcasm: stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest, mock, hurt or insult a person, situation or thing; extreme form of irony.

CR500R7 · Post by **CR500R7** » September 28th, 2009, 7:45 pm

Well Ive had the whole deal from the start, I know what you have been getting at.

thestuz · Post by **thestuz** » October 11th, 2009, 12:10 am

he has a good point. the shallow hex head is not the best design imo. i too had the same problem with one of mine. even though i was using the hex side just to hold it, the bolt can still spin in the hole. therefor the pressure you apply to the nut finds its way to the hex head on the other side. i prefer metric nuts/bolts anyday. but as already said, use correct tensile allen keys that are the right fit and make sure you have some locktite on the nuts, pref the stuff that doesnt dry while your wrenching. good luck

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Ironman sprocket BOLTS REALLY REALLY suck!

Ironman sprocket BOLTS REALLY REALLY suck!