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I see your point,in fact in don't trust sellers with new plastics,tires,pipes,handlebars.....and e.g:a crappy seat cover100hp honda wrote:ill probly pass on this bike. something about it seems fishy. brand spanking new plastic and tires, beat up pipe, after market front rotor, and something funky is with the seat. im not sure the lowball price but im sure they wouldnt go any lower than $3,500 and thats too much