x2britincali wrote:
I wouldnt say im athiest, more like agnostic
too much weird shit for there to be nothing, but I'm not gonna start praying to some dude in the sky...
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dannygraves
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too much weird shit for there to be nothing, but I'm not gonna start praying to some dude in the sky...
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If you guys have any questions about the mormon religion...ask away! Something you heard and want to know if it is true...etc. Dont be afraid, I wont bite....hard.britincali wrote:Drama is a good thing as long as it aint all BS namecalling (freemer)
I like a good 10 page heated thread every now and then
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britincali
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It's somewhat true. Mormons, once they have been through the temple will wear "garments." They are part of the religion and are all white to show purity and are to protect the wearer. I do not know all there is to know about them since I have not gone through the temple but my wife has and wears hers faithfully. They promote modesty because they are the length of long shorts and a short sleeved T shirt and must not be visible..britincali wrote:I wanna know about the magic underwear
I have heard many stories of the "magical underwear" really protecting individuals from certain dismemberment but it is all based on faith.
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When I was growing up I was always taught to lock the doors and turn off all the lights when the mormons were in the neighborhood,no offense to anyone but the mormons in Nova Scotia are very persuasive & once they get in your house they are very hard to get out,maybe fine for a religious household but If your like me and don't even know or better yet don't care what religion you are then you lock the door and hide till they pass you by
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dannygraves
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my wife opened up the door in just panties and topless for some jahovas whitnesses...they got uncomfortable and left. I usually offer them a beer and bombard then with scientific fact that goes against their beliefs, they usually leave within a few minuites. 
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those dudes are pushy eh,whats your address again,I'll have to dress up like one and stop bydannygraves wrote:my wife opened up the door in just panties and topless for some jahovas whitnesses...they got uncomfortable and left. I usually offer them a beer and bombard then with scientific fact that goes against their beliefs, they usually leave within a few minuites.
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dannygraves
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always fun!kkvslayer wrote:those dudes are pushy eh,whats your address again,I'll have to dress up like one and stop bydannygraves wrote:my wife opened up the door in just panties and topless for some jahovas whitnesses...they got uncomfortable and left. I usually offer them a beer and bombard then with scientific fact that goes against their beliefs, they usually leave within a few minuites.
HAHAHA, ya, they used to get pushy, haven't had to deal with that since we moved here to vegas.
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Gen-3 badass trail/mx bike --SOLD--
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Gen-3 badass trail/mx bike --SOLD--
Gen-1 built dunes bike --SOLD--
'05 klx110 --SOLD--
'95 pw80
You're right, missionaries are annoying! I never went on a mission but have many friends who did. While I was out and about doing my own thing I introduced many people to what us mormons are really like rather than trying to push religion on to them. Just being a good example gets people interested.
I never went on a mission but have many friends who did. While I was out and about doing my own thing I introduced many people to what us mormons are really like rather than trying to push religion on to them. Just being a good example gets people interested. Say hallo to my little friend, Mr. CR 500.
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When i used to live in lucerne valley we had alot of mormons out there, I lived on a dirt road bout 2 miles from any pavement. Anyways my girlfriend called me and said she was coming over for the night, so i say cool. I hopped in the shower got all cleaned up and what not. I got out of the shower dried off and cruised to the fridge for a beer naked. I get my beer and take a few swigs trying to decide what to wear. I think aw fukit i wanna a peice i aint gonna wear nothin. Knock on the door. Walk over open the door expecting my girl, nope wrong 2 mormans standing there with theres jaws about to hit the floor. I look at them they look at me and i say hay you guys wanna go or what. I ment for them to leave, guess they thought i want to take them both for a ride, cause they go running away yelling something about how its wrong to want to love another man. We'll i got pissed and started to chase after them for callin me a queer and i caught them both(in there defense they were kinda fat and i just got out of highschool from playin football and wrestling and track)so i catch them and they're freakin out. I tell them dont forget your damn bikes then let them go and start walkin back to the house. I got inside and i listened for them but they never came back. So my girl shows up and asks me what the hell am i doing with 2 bikes in front of my house(still neekid mind you) so i told her what happend and that i was gonna go over to the church and give em back. so i did and never got botherd again. Theres more to the story but you get the idea
Brit must be gay because he always says hes gonna have a fag
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By MICHELLE ROBERTS, Associated Press Writer 4-18-08
Polygamist Fathers 416 Children
SAN ANGELO, Texas - After hours of lawyers popping up with similar objections and questions, a custody hearing for 416 children seized from a polygamist sect finally turned to whether they were abused: A child welfare worker said some women at the sect's ranch may have had children when they were minors, some as young as 13.
The testimony came late Thursday, the first day of a court hearing to determine whether the children, swept up in a raid on the ranch two weeks ago, will remain in state custody. Child welfare officials claim the children were abused or in imminent danger of abuse because the sect encourages girls younger than 18 to marry and have children.
Child welfare investigator Angie Voss testified that at least five girls who are younger than 18 are pregnant or have children. Voss said some of the women identified as adults with children may be juveniles, or may have had children when they were younger than 18.
Identifying children and parents has been difficult because members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have given different names and ages at various times, Voss said. The state has asked that DNA be taken from all of the children and their alleged parents to help determine biological connections. The judge has not ruled on that request.
The court hearing, which continues Friday morning, disintegrated into farce early Thursday, as hundreds of lawyers who descended on San Angelo for the proceedings shouted objections or queued up to cross-examine witnesses. The judge struggled to maintain order.
"I've tried to impose some structure to this free-for-all," said Texas District Judge Barbara Walther.
The case — one of the biggest, most convoluted child-custody hearings in U.S. history — presented an extraordinary spectacle: big-city lawyers in suits and mothers in 19th-century, pioneer-style dresses, all packed into a historic courtroom and an auditorium two blocks away that was patched into the proceedings by a grainy video feed.
The state wants to keep the children in its custody, and likely move them to foster homes while officials continue investigating abuse allegations. The state must provide evidence the children were physically or sexually abused, or are in imminent danger of abuse.
In 11 hours on Thursday, only three witnesses testified, including Voss.
As lawyers shouted, dozens of mothers sat quietly in their long cotton dresses and braided upswept hair. They were sworn in as possible witnesses at the hearing's outset, but it was not clear when they might testify.
In the satellite courtroom at City Hall, hundreds of people strained to see and hear a large projector set up on the auditorium's stage. But the feed was blurry and barely audible.
"I'm not in a position to advocate for anything," complained Susan Hays, the appointed attorney for a 2-year-old sect member.
No decisions were made on the fate of any of the youngsters, and more cross-examination of Voss was likely Friday.
The children, most of whom are being kept in a domed coliseum in San Angelo, range in age from 6 months to 17 years. About 130 are under 4 years old, Voss said.
She said she was concerned about how the children and women followed the orders of the church's prophet, identified as jailed leader Warren Jeffs.
"The children reported that if the prophet heard from the Heavenly Father that they were to marry at any age, they were to do that. If the prophet said they were to lie, they were to do that," Voss said.
Jeffs is currently awaiting trial in a Kingman, Ariz., jail on charges related to the promotion of underage marriages. He previously was convicted of being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old wed to her cousin in a Utah case.
The sect came to West Texas in 2003, relocating some members from the church's traditional home along the Utah-Arizona state line. Voss said the ranch was considered a special place, the sect's Zion.
Authorities raided the 1,700-acre ranch south of here in Eldorado on April 3 and began removing children while seeking evidence of underage girls being married to adults. Walther signed an emergency order giving the state custody of the children taken from the ranch.
The raid was prompted by a call from someone identifying herself as a 16-year-old girl with the sect. She claimed her husband, a 50-year-old member of the sect, beat and raped her.
The girl has yet to be identified, though Voss said a girl matching her description was seen by other girls in the ranch garden four days before the raid began.
Polygamist Fathers 416 Children
SAN ANGELO, Texas - After hours of lawyers popping up with similar objections and questions, a custody hearing for 416 children seized from a polygamist sect finally turned to whether they were abused: A child welfare worker said some women at the sect's ranch may have had children when they were minors, some as young as 13.
The testimony came late Thursday, the first day of a court hearing to determine whether the children, swept up in a raid on the ranch two weeks ago, will remain in state custody. Child welfare officials claim the children were abused or in imminent danger of abuse because the sect encourages girls younger than 18 to marry and have children.
Child welfare investigator Angie Voss testified that at least five girls who are younger than 18 are pregnant or have children. Voss said some of the women identified as adults with children may be juveniles, or may have had children when they were younger than 18.
Identifying children and parents has been difficult because members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have given different names and ages at various times, Voss said. The state has asked that DNA be taken from all of the children and their alleged parents to help determine biological connections. The judge has not ruled on that request.
The court hearing, which continues Friday morning, disintegrated into farce early Thursday, as hundreds of lawyers who descended on San Angelo for the proceedings shouted objections or queued up to cross-examine witnesses. The judge struggled to maintain order.
"I've tried to impose some structure to this free-for-all," said Texas District Judge Barbara Walther.
The case — one of the biggest, most convoluted child-custody hearings in U.S. history — presented an extraordinary spectacle: big-city lawyers in suits and mothers in 19th-century, pioneer-style dresses, all packed into a historic courtroom and an auditorium two blocks away that was patched into the proceedings by a grainy video feed.
The state wants to keep the children in its custody, and likely move them to foster homes while officials continue investigating abuse allegations. The state must provide evidence the children were physically or sexually abused, or are in imminent danger of abuse.
In 11 hours on Thursday, only three witnesses testified, including Voss.
As lawyers shouted, dozens of mothers sat quietly in their long cotton dresses and braided upswept hair. They were sworn in as possible witnesses at the hearing's outset, but it was not clear when they might testify.
In the satellite courtroom at City Hall, hundreds of people strained to see and hear a large projector set up on the auditorium's stage. But the feed was blurry and barely audible.
"I'm not in a position to advocate for anything," complained Susan Hays, the appointed attorney for a 2-year-old sect member.
No decisions were made on the fate of any of the youngsters, and more cross-examination of Voss was likely Friday.
The children, most of whom are being kept in a domed coliseum in San Angelo, range in age from 6 months to 17 years. About 130 are under 4 years old, Voss said.
She said she was concerned about how the children and women followed the orders of the church's prophet, identified as jailed leader Warren Jeffs.
"The children reported that if the prophet heard from the Heavenly Father that they were to marry at any age, they were to do that. If the prophet said they were to lie, they were to do that," Voss said.
Jeffs is currently awaiting trial in a Kingman, Ariz., jail on charges related to the promotion of underage marriages. He previously was convicted of being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old wed to her cousin in a Utah case.
The sect came to West Texas in 2003, relocating some members from the church's traditional home along the Utah-Arizona state line. Voss said the ranch was considered a special place, the sect's Zion.
Authorities raided the 1,700-acre ranch south of here in Eldorado on April 3 and began removing children while seeking evidence of underage girls being married to adults. Walther signed an emergency order giving the state custody of the children taken from the ranch.
The raid was prompted by a call from someone identifying herself as a 16-year-old girl with the sect. She claimed her husband, a 50-year-old member of the sect, beat and raped her.
The girl has yet to be identified, though Voss said a girl matching her description was seen by other girls in the ranch garden four days before the raid began.
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redrocket190
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...the break away of the more extreme Mormons is covered in this book.
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iggys-amsoil
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Colorado City, AZ to be exact.AlisoBob wrote: The sect came to West Texas in 2003, relocating some members from the church's traditional home along the Utah-Arizona state line. Voss said the ranch was considered a special place, the sect's Zion.
You have to pass though there to take the back road into Pink Sand Dunes.
No pun intented on the pink part.
I think 20/20 or something tried to interview them a couple of years ago.
I passed six bus loads of those children from the polygamist compound coming back from Big Bend a week ago. The busses were being escorted by the DPS (Texas Troopers). Some were brought to Houston and some were taken south of Houston to Brazoria County. After living sheltered lives, they're going to be completely confused being stuck in the city; especially if they get mixed in with other kids. Kinda wonder if the foster care they are going to be exposed to is any better than where they came from.
Yea.... Real culture shock...jbird_710 wrote: Kinda wonder if the foster care they are going to be exposed to is any better than where they came from.
Hear about that Austrian dude who fathers 7 kids with his daughter kept in the basement?
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=F0uAIqnVXM0[/youtube]
HTF do family's recover from shit like this?
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