How to properly bore a cylinder...

[Slomo]

There is a long standing joke between Pete Loomis and myself that we claim the other is a retarded half brother. Although he is a Loomis and I'm Lomas, people constantly call me Loomis. I've gotten used to it, and it doesn't bother me at all.

Well, I send Pete my cylinder to bore because he's the man... and the fact that he uses a torque plate and proper finish hones. It showed up in the mail today... check it out- no, you can't see my ports... that's top secret...
Should I still kick his ass, even though he did the work for free?

[Hellbear]

[britincali]

[ou812]

Get a coat of clear on to it ASAP

[AlisoBob]

Too bad he didnt engrave it!!!!!

I like Loomis... hes a "one man band"...

Does motors

Does frames

Does suspension parts....

Does it all!

[Slomo]

Charlie don't surf.....

lmao

[dannygraves]

LMAO, thats funny right there!!

Where is Loomis located? I want to send my jug someplace that will use a torque plate and do it right. I took my jug to the local place that does all the topends for carter powersports and last time I had my head off I was getting the stop sign shaped lines. Still have ok compression, so I'm going to keep running it for now.
I was also thinking about GSS or Gorr. I know a guy who works on the 500s and does porting work, but outsources his boring and I don't like that.

[AlisoBob]

Free Plug....

http://www.lpmmotorsports.com/

[Slomo]

He's in Billings, Montana.

406-690-3321

[ou812]

question is , even if you ask for it to be done with a plate, when you get it back one really does not know if it was done that way.

[Slomo]

question is , even if you ask for it to be done with a plate, when you get it back one really does not know if it was done that way.

run a bore gauge down it....

Next- don't talk about someones integrity that you know nothing about, that seems pretty lame to me.

[90cr500guy]

question is , even if you ask for it to be done with a plate, when you get it back one really does not know if it was done that way.

run a bore gauge down it....

Next- don't talk about someones integrity that you know nothing about, that seems pretty lame to me.

I dont think he was questioning the integrity so much as he was asking , How do you know it was done with the torque plate?
So if you use a bore gauge, am I correct to assume that the bore will be slightly larger at the studs?

[AlisoBob]

when you get it back one really does not know if it was done that way.

When you marry your wife, you assume she didnt do the whole football team too....

some things just require trust....

[dannygraves]

question is , even if you ask for it to be done with a plate, when you get it back one really does not know if it was done that way.

Thats why I'm trying to find a reputable shop where I can drop a name or two. The last place I had any machine work done, I became order#, then invoice#, I called to check on it and they wanted my number, not my name or a description of what I brought in, so those guys have no reason to try to do a good job.
I used to go to a killer machinist in san clemente, Bob Smalls (the guy was huge, made Alisobob look small) and he had a really nice shop and specialised in really odd ball specialized machining, like old boat motors and jag v-12s and stuff. Anyway, I used to go by there and BS with him about all sorts of stuff and we became friends, so when I brought in my 430 MEL motor he took care of me. The 430MEL (mercury edsel lincoln) was a wedge motor with a flat combustion chamber in the head and a 15*wedge to make the combustion chamber. They are a PITA to bore (right anyway). Most machine shops will tell you all they have to do is line up the bore (which is fine if you like re-rebuilding it), but the right way to do it is with a torque plate that is setup for the 15* wedge. Because I was bros with the guy and brought him business he hunted down those plates from some old timer machinist in like long beach or something.
anyway, all I'm trying to say is that you may not know if a torque plate was used until its too late, but if you have an established relationship with the machinist and you know he knows what he is doing, then you can be sure it was done right.

[ou812]

Next- don't talk about someones integrity that you know nothing about, that seems pretty lame to me.

Well Slomo where I live every place that does 2 stroke bikes, when asked about a plate they have ALL told me "you don't need to do that on a 500". Well I don't buy that but IF I could get a shop talked into doing it that way , How would I know for sure? See Slomo not evey one want to go out and buy evey tool under the sun to check on what a shop diid. GEt it?

The fact that YOU think I am in some way attacking your guy , to me is Lame. Whats up with you? Did you not like the rotor I gave you for free? on top of the eleven bucks it cost me to ship it to you?

Also since you think I am Lame, Why would you read something on this site , but take the totally lame idea of them PMing me on another site to stir up shit? Dude that is lame, what the problem?

I can't speak for Bob but what is said Here should be dealt with here, atleast when I am a party to it. Running back to another site and also one where you can hide in a mod only section is down right Ghey. Best to buck up if ya got a chip on your shoulder about me , be a man, don't do the Ghey shiz.

[Ported&Polished]

[Slomo]

Next- don't talk about someones integrity that you know nothing about, that seems pretty lame to me.

Well Slomo where I live every place that does 2 stroke bikes, when asked about a plate they have ALL told me "you don't need to do that on a 500". Well I don't buy that but IF I could get a shop talked into doing it that way , How would I know for sure? See Slomo not evey one want to go out and buy evey tool under the sun to check on what a shop diid. GEt it?

The fact that YOU think I am in some way attacking your guy , to me is Lame. Whats up with you? Did you not like the rotor I gave you for free? on top of the eleven bucks it cost me to ship it to you?

Also since you think I am Lame, Why would you read something on this site , but take the totally lame idea of them PMing me on another site to stir up shit? Dude that is lame, what the problem?

I can't speak for Bob but what is said Here should be dealt with here, atleast when I am a party to it. Running back to another site and also one where you can hide in a mod only section is down right Ghey. Best to buck up if ya got a chip on your shoulder about me , be a man, don't do the Ghey shiz.

you lost me on the running back to the mod section thing.... would you plaese elaborate.
Pming you on the other site... Do you have the same user name?
again, you lost me.

Chip on my shoulder- nope, although I tend to type bullet statements... ie- short and to the point, which often times get misconstrued as being a dick.
So, you can't see how your question about knowing if a torque plate was used or not might come off as the same thing you took my response?

And, yes, I appreciate the rotor you sent, I believe I thanked you a few times. Thanks again.

I didn't post this to start a pissing contest. I posted it because I thought it was damn funny when I opened the package and saw my cylinder.
Just trying to give everyone a laugh, at my expense.


DannyGraves- Pete is the man, period. He has done a ton of our hillclimb bikes and REDONE a several that had work done by some big name guys.
You will not be disappointed.

[AlisoBob]

Well Slomo where I live every place that does 2 stroke bikes, when asked about a plate they have ALL told me "you don't need to do that on a 500". Well I don't buy that but IF I could get a shop talked into doing it that way , How would I know for sure? See Slomo not evey one want to go out and buy evey tool under the sun to check on what a shop diid. GEt it?

By your way of thinking... you cant trust anyone?

How do you know that your physican is on the level when you tells you that you need a heart bypass....

For all you know, he knocked you out, gave you a nice scar.... prolly put a photo of your junk up on his "My Space" account.... DONE!

Yea its true.... millions of CR500' have been bored and hones sans torqueplate. Its not absoultly required... and most shops wil ltell you that..

BUT..... If someone with Pete Loomis's reputation and integrity tells you he has made the investment in the tooling to do the job to the best level possible... you beleive the man..plain and simple...

If I was Pete, and you asked me to my face "Are you really going to use a plate?".. know what I would do?

1. Throw your shit in the street. >>>WAY OUT IN THE STREET!

2. Have a good laugh.

Dont insult someone you have never met...

[ou812]

Pming you on the other site... Do you have the same user name?

Yes it is ou812

you lost me on the running back to the mod section thing.... would you plaese elaborate.

On this site I was repling to a question, as part of that reply I used as a point I would not even talk to a party if they were lets say taking things offered to the needy and then resaling the item. I was making a point to that person. Then I at some latter time I went to another site and I recieved a PM asking for details on my post on this site.

Now I am not trying to beat you up or anything, but should you not have asked me on this site and or PMed me on this site? I do not want to stir any shiz on this or any site, that why I did not want to point a finger or name at any person. You do know who that is because you asked me by PM. As I told you ,if I name the person and you contact him, I will be the one who is the arsehole even while I tried not to name anyone.You asked me by PMalthough I did not want to, I did answer your question because as I told you in it "I respect you" Remember that?

You are a mod on that other site, You can if you wish talk on a MOD only section. From what I know some of the stuff there in the mod section may very well be pretty sad stuff. If and I only say IF the topic of what I talked about here and then you took to the other site via PM and then "possible "to the mod section I would view as not cool.

IMO all members on any site sould be made more then aware that they will be discussed without there knowledge and won't be given a chance to defend them self. I do not know that for a FACT on the site you mod on but you do have the ability to set the record straight on that issue. I personally don't like little clubs within a club, does that make sence?

I think ya need a couple of Black Ices , I know I do, peace brother

[ou812]

Dont insult someone you have never met...

Were is the insult? I was asking in a general sense about going in to any shop, NOT MR. LOOMIS

If I were asking about him don't you think I would have said " Hey does this Loomis guy tell the truth

By your way of thinking... you cant trust anyone?

So Bob if you needed a bypass , you are saying you would not want to know what they are going to do to you?

I personally would, trust ain't even a issue. disclosure is.

[Slomo]

Ahhhhhhhhhh... Now I remember... Understand this- NOTHING of that PM went anywhere, no discussion with anyone.
I really didn't know how I should handle it, and I have no way to prove anything so I pretty much dropped it.

check your pm's.... on here

[AlisoBob]

I'm just gonna' stick to your " Have a Beer" recomendation..



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Last one......



I cant find it in California...

[Slomo]

I'm just gonna' stick to your " Have a Beer" recomendation..



Ahhhhh............ Tasty!

Last one......



I cant find it in California...

It's all about the love.... and beer

[ou812]

So just to beat this dead horse I just wanted to sayI have not heard anything bad about Mr. Loomis. If this thread title was "Loomis does great work, well I would have posted differant and more detail.

This thread was posted as " How to properly bore a cylinder" which is a general statement. I inturn askes a general question into knowing if a job is done right. Why would I slam someone I know nothing about?

now me fingers hurt, beer store is 5 min away and loaded with them black deals.

All is good!

[britincali]

I had a good look a J lewis's GSS cylinder/head and piston, the port work was a trip, like nothing Ive seen before and from what Ive heard the loomis motors have more balls than the GSS ones.

If I decide to hop up my '00 im definatly sending my motor to loomis.