Toyota moves to #2

britincali · Post by **britincali** » January 4th, 2008, 8:28 am

The actual sales numbers put them at #1, but toyota doesnt want any negative press (700 domestic dealers shut down last year) so they haven't reported all sales.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/In ... maker.aspx

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » January 4th, 2008, 11:19 am

yeah, well, the tundras aren't going to be selling so well if this continues

americans won't buy a truck with a tailgate rated to hold a max of 150lb
the jap engineers still don't quite get americans...

britincali · Post by **britincali** » January 4th, 2008, 11:27 am

Tailgate, camshafts, motors seizing for no reason, frames flexing..... The new tundra is shit IMO.

Just talked with the area rep and found out toyota has been # 1 in sales since the beginning of '07 but they wont release the real sales figures ever.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » January 4th, 2008, 11:31 am

britincali wrote: The new tundra is shit IMO.

true dat brotha. the tacoma seems to be a damn good truck though and has been for alot of years from what ive seen. if i bought a small truck today it would be a older tacoma about 4 years old. i think what everyone forgets is the toyota is not rated to carry or pull 15,000lbs. and alot of americans OVERLOAD their shit and the toyota wont handle it. if you need to pull a fuggin john deere excavator, buy a cummins- atleast only the plastic steering wheel will fall off the dodge

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » January 4th, 2008, 11:32 am

yeah, a dohc v8 doesn't belong in a truck unless its a diesel!
my buddy has the last year of the old body ('06, I think) and he hates it. He says its useless as a truck, his cv boots keep tearing and he only has a 2" leveling lift. With 2 bikes in the back it sags like my f-150 with a qubic yard of sand and that 4.7 was gutless as far as torque, like its a quick truck empty, but good luck pulling any weight with it!
and now I hear the new ones have tons of mechanical problems.

mxracr121 · Post by **mxracr121** » January 4th, 2008, 11:33 am

[quote="britincali"]Tailgate, camshafts, motors seizing for no reason, frames flexing..... The new tundra is shit IMO.quote]

Seems to be what is getting reported. Odd for Toyota.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » January 4th, 2008, 11:34 am

100hp honda wrote:
britincali wrote: The new tundra is shit IMO.

true dat brotha. the tacoma seems to be a damn good truck though and has been for alot of years from what ive seen. if i bought a small truck today it would be a older tacoma about 4 years old.

eh, I still miss my old ranger, if I got another small truck it would be a ranger again. it hauled ass with the 4.0l, could tow 6000lbs and took abuse that I still can't believe I dished out on a brand new truck. I abused it so bad I needed all new tires at 17,000miles and killed the brake pads at like 9,000 but that truck loved every minute of my abuse...

britincali · Post by **britincali** » January 4th, 2008, 11:35 am

Sorry to say but...

The new tundra is one of the first toyotas to be 100% built here in the states, you think it has something to do with it?

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » January 4th, 2008, 11:39 am

have a look at this truck. now this focker is heavy duty. no it doesnt have 500lb ft of torque but the rest of the drive train is heavy duty as it gets

. i have a 460 laying around im putting in it, that should make it pull alittle better

http://cr500riders.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1199320709

britincali · Post by **britincali** » January 4th, 2008, 11:45 am

Tox's grampa had an F100 like that for 20+ years, you could just not kill that thing. We used to drive it everywhere

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » January 4th, 2008, 11:46 am

britincali wrote:Tox's grampa had an F100 like that for 20+ years, you could just not kill that thing. We used to drive it everywhere

word

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » January 4th, 2008, 11:50 am

britincali wrote:Sorry to say but...

The new tundra is one of the first toyotas to be 100% built here in the states, you think it has something to do with it?

LOL, kinda like how the nissan titans were having tons of probs their first year, mostly because the dana axles they were getting were junk! I thought that was hillarious that what was supposed to be a huge selling point on that truck turned into its biggest problem. powdered metal spider gears will do that

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » January 4th, 2008, 11:53 am

britincali wrote:Tox's grampa had an F100 like that for 20+ years, you could just not kill that thing. We used to drive it everywhere

my cousin had a '85 f-150 302 2bbl that we could not kill. There was nothing you could do to that truck, his dad finally sold it to some mexicans for $200, they still drive it!

I've got an old '82 c10 6.2 diesel, that I drove to work today actually and it is flat out indestructable!

britincali · Post by **britincali** » January 4th, 2008, 11:57 am

dannygraves wrote: LOL, kinda like how the nissan titans were having tons of probs their first year, mostly because the dana axles they were getting were junk! I thought that was hillarious that what was supposed to be a huge selling point on that truck turned into its biggest problem. powdered metal spider gears will do that

The biggest problem with the titan is they used a modified frontier chassis and added thousands of pounds of weight to it, have you seen the size of the axle on those things? It looks like a tea cup saucer.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » January 4th, 2008, 12:03 pm

a tea cup saucer

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » January 4th, 2008, 12:07 pm

yeah, it cracks me up that my ranger had a larger diff than a titan rated to tow 9500lbs. My f-150 rated to tow 9900 lbs has a 9.75" ring gear

ellett · Post by **ellett** » January 4th, 2008, 12:12 pm

britincali wrote: ...a tea cup saucer.

britincali · Post by **britincali** » January 4th, 2008, 12:42 pm

dannygraves wrote: My f-150 rated to tow 9900 lbs has a 9.75" ring gear

Ive got the 9.75" and mines only rated to pull 4000lbs

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » January 4th, 2008, 1:08 pm

you guys are on crack. NO f150 has ever used a 9.75 ring gear. the older ones used a 9.00

. i forgot yours is the LIGHTNING brit, maybe it has the 10.25

dana 60= 9.75
dana 70= 10.5
dana 80= 11.5
newer ford f250- f350 sterling= 10.25
older ford= dana 60 and 70
'80- around '88 chevy 2500= believe it was 10.5 corporate semi-floating
most year dodge 2500-3500= dana 60, 70 and 80

mxracr121 · Post by **mxracr121** » January 4th, 2008, 1:14 pm

britincali wrote:Sorry to say but...

The new tundra is one of the first toyotas to be 100% built here in the states, you think it has something to do with it?

God, I hope not, but, that may just be it!

Maybe that was the Japanese's goal all along. Take a product with a long history of durability, start making it here, and watch it fail.

"Ru mericans, too razy, no honor, ronly work 8 hour day, croffe breaks and rolidays"- Toyota President.

britincali · Post by **britincali** » January 4th, 2008, 1:19 pm

100hp honda wrote:you guys are on crack. NO f150 has ever used a 9.75 ring gear. the older ones used a 9.00 . i forgot yours is the LIGHTNING brit, maybe it has the 10.25

dana 60= 9.75
dana 70= 10.5
dana 80= 11.5
newer ford f250- f350 sterling= 10.25

Nope 9.75 in ALL (before 04) 3/4, 1 ton, lightning and harley supercharged trucks. The regular 1/2 ton and V6 trucks use the 8.8"

Edit :- And a 9.75" in supercab models.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » January 4th, 2008, 1:22 pm

before '04 f250-350 used a 9.75 ? sounds like a tea cup saucer

. brit i got a dana 70 sitting on the side of my house that will bolt right to your truck, come pick it up. 10.5 ring gear, 35 spline axles, 4.10 gears with ford trak-lok

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » January 4th, 2008, 1:22 pm

yup, mine is an '04 4x4 with the hd tow package so it has a 9.75 3.73 LSD.

britincali · Post by **britincali** » January 4th, 2008, 1:29 pm

dannygraves wrote: 9.75 3.73 LSD.

Thats what Ive got but the LSD is now just an SD......

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » January 4th, 2008, 1:29 pm

my old '98 c2500 had a big mofo, I think it was a 10.25.

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Toyota moves to #2

Toyota moves to #2